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Светлана Гэмм 15.10.2009 13:27

did you just said that we totally don't need it (agriculture or manifacturing)?...so there must be a reason they buy it from us...why can't they grow they own?...apparently some products are better if they are manifactured here...And, I wonder how many people would prefer to drink quality enhanced Chinese wine to Californian one?
I guess on upper West Side Manhattan or on San Fransico agriculture is a sort of anti-culture. Who needs it? Only Chinese.
Germany is cutting corparate tax...why?-manufacturing job creation, which is frown uppon by elitists in NY so used to mutual back rubbing service oriented economy..;-)
btw, Palm Beach county is not exactly the Bronx of Florida..($) ($) ($)

Игорь 15.10.2009 13:32

Interesting Globalization discussion... :-(
In my opinion, Fox News doesn't have any affiliation with the Republican party. They have some conservative commentators (Beck and Hannity primarily), other than that - it is business as usual - do whatever it takes to attract more viewers...

Светлана Гэмм 15.10.2009 14:07

As far as havenots from the rest of the Manhattan state of mind, those MP3 payer afffictionados are enjoyng music played on quality hardware manufactured by chinese teens yet developed and designed by whooping 35 thousnad american grown geeks. Btw Kawai and Yamaha copied American build pianos, it took them a century to destroy their peers. Japanese cars were based on achivements of the American auto industry, it took them less than 30 to turn the table there too. Today's Chinese automakers are hiring American desgners and it may take them only 10 years to destroy our heavy subsidized GM. Yet we would gladly accept this blessing, since we can still service those chinese clanckers.
in other word, everything that's manufactured today in China have been developed in first world countries if they will develop and manufacture Tomorrow, what will we service then considering manufacturing and agriculture are already gone?

Мария 15.10.2009 16:32

2. Glen Beck = Keith Olbermann
Except that Glenn Beck is extremely funny and loves America,
and Kejth Olbermann is extremely unfunny and repulsive troll who hates America.
I watch Glenn Beck at least 3-4 days a week at the gym - his shows are absolutely hysterical! ( And it helps me go through my stairmaster torture:-) ). And he is right to the point. There is nothing about his criticism about Obama administration and all the RINOs like Lindsey Graham/McCains
that is wrong. Everything he is saying is , sadly, true.

Мария 15.10.2009 16:35

Also somebody mention about 70,000 gay parade that FOX did not spend much time talking about.
How about 2 million tax-payers protest in Washington DC that your unbiased/balanced CNN/NPR never talked about?
You have to be living on the moon to think that CNN is not an Obama outlet. :-|

Игорь 15.10.2009 22:04

Ironically, I used to like Glenn Beck a lot more when he was on CNN. These days у меня от него болит голова. To me he is very far from funny, "crazy and hysterical" - maybe.
At the end of the day, he is just trying to become a second Rush Limbaugh and create his dedicated followers - good marketing strategy, has nothing to do with his political views...

Mike 15.10.2009 23:14

Maria, the number of people in any march is a subject of great debate.. 2mln number was clearly outlandish.
In any case, argument of "pissing on the floor is better then shitting on the floor" is kinda silly.

Khramaya 15.10.2009 23:25

"How about 2 million tax-payers protest in Washington DC that your unbiased/balanced CNN/NPR never talked about"
- this is inaccurate.
It was talked about all the time on both of those networks at length.
Other networks commented on AMOUNT of coverage to their viewers who did not watch that coverage.
I watch intentionally equal amounts of CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and on radio intentionally rotate stations every day.
As far as web or printed publications, it is also important to have equal amounts - now I have tabs open for Drudge, WSJ, BBC, and Huff Post.

Светлана Гэмм 15.10.2009 23:31

***********.youtube.com/watch?v=QOrPzVECSjo
look at the CNN coverage of the Teaparties...tell me how "unbiased" it is...

Khramaya 15.10.2009 23:43

nobody said it was unbiased.
Everybody is biased. Every channel, every commentator.
Was was stated inaccurately is that they didn't cover it at all - they did.

Светлана Гэмм 15.10.2009 23:49

same as Fox - other channels didn't cover teaparties enough or covered it with bias or negatively...did Jon Stewart complain about it?...:-)
honestly, I have no idea they didn't cover it more...probably decided to spare some people who are already depressed from everything going on DC...:-( (tr)

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 00:10

nobody said it was unbiased.
Everybody is biased. Every channel, every commentator.
no, but people are constantly outraged with Fox only...complain about Fox commnentators...right?...you never complain about other channels...it would be interesting to hear Fox's explanation why why didn't send anyone...but I can assure you most Fox viewers read about it, know all the issues gays are interested in, everything Obama's promised them and hasn't done so far...

Khramaya 16.10.2009 00:13

Sveta, just to be fair and balanced, please read my posts in this thread and point out at least one where I criticized FOX.

Алексей Пэт 16.10.2009 00:15

How about 2 million tax-payers protest in Washington DC that your unbiased/balanced CNN/NPR never talked about?
BTW, what was the point of those "tea parties?" To protest tax hikes that were not even promised? Is it because conservatives do not trust Democrats? I'd like to be educated.
And indeed, the statement at the top is far from being accurate. While Fox News indeed spent more time on talking about them (as they kept advertising them as "spontaneous"), NPR/CNN/BBC covered them in detail.

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 00:20

Julia, maybe not in this thread...but don't you usually? :-)
democrats refused to have a presidential debate on Fox, republicans had theirs on CNN and MSNBC...Obama came on Fox ONCE before elections, has been invited numerous times on many programs and has declined all of them...why?...Bush has been on most other channels...Obama is afraid of the news channel?...
and Obama himself and his aids have been attacking Fox ever since he's been elected...now tell me if it's presidential to attack ONE news channel that is maybe a little more critical of him than others...if you can's answer and listen to your critics, how can you learn if you are doing good or not?...

Mike 16.10.2009 00:22

I wonder if there is a site that provides time per story per channel?
like
Story A
Fox: 10 minutes
CNBC: 23 minutes
CNN: 17 minutes
MSNBC: still in business? ;-)

Славик Саж 16.10.2009 00:23

Did anyone hear about youtube clip where Michelle is mad at Barack for dancing with some chick?
If you have a link please post it.

Mike 16.10.2009 00:31

Administration attacking radio/tv personalities is retarded not matter how you look at it.
If it accomplishes anything - drives more people to those hosts.

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 00:37

Алексей, you are missing the point - Fox has people on critical of Obama and those who support him as the same time...big difference than just one-sided channels...
Славик, post the link...

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 00:41

***********.youtube.com/watch?v=jFzbooqaDjc
here it is...I didn't see anything psectacular...

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 01:09

it was nto the the right one, I think this is
***********.youtube.com/watch?v=jFzbooqaDjc

Олег Сах 16.10.2009 01:43

Алексей, tea parties were the response to the stimulus, not actual tax raises. The idea is that stimulus was full of pork, pet projects and paybacks to Obama supporters, like $2 million given to ACORN. The protesters consider it to be waste of taxpayer's money. You may or may not agree with these people, but they definitely have merit in their actions.

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 01:52

and also to protest the mortgage bill - did you see that? it's CNBC reporter outraged over the bill...
***********.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-Jw-5Kx8k

Алексей Пэтк 16.10.2009 02:04

What was the percentage of pork in the stimulus bill? If that bill was full of pork, why did Republicans not block it? Did they get part of that pork?

Олег Сах 16.10.2009 02:12

***********.usnews.com/money/business-economy/articles/2009/02/19/finding-the-pork-in-the-obama-stimulus-bill.html
Of course not all of that was pork, and also, of course, Republicans have benefited from it. However, I have heard Republican Congressman Peter King on the radio describing hush-hush passing of the Stimulus bill. Pelosi & Emmanuel have simply pushed it down Republican throat.

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 02:17

Republicans can't block anything anymore - they are in the minority - democrats have SUPER-MAJORITY...no republicans voted for the bill in the House and three RINOs in the senate...

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 07:46

********thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/63249-53-republicans-demand-firing-of-safe-schools-czar

this is both on Fox investigative reporting and czars that are not vetted by the Congress....

Khramaya 16.10.2009 11:01

it is so funny to see criticism of the stimulus bill after TARP.
Let's see....... we got our road paved, and Wall street got their pockets full of taxpayers money.
Hmmmmm.......

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 11:10

who told you the same people didn't criticize TARP?...like Dick Morris said back when Bush decided to do it - he must've have labotomy or something...

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 11:27

but, Julia, at least TARP was a loan, stimulus isn't...how can you keep spending when we are in financial crisis caused by overspending?

Mike, what do you think would have happened, have they not bailout out the banks?

who was trashing Golden?

Khramaya 16.10.2009 11:30

everybody did....
I told my relatives who work for them to share those bonuses with me....:-D :-D

Mike 16.10.2009 11:33

without TARP?
short term - lots of pain
long term - much needed cleansing
and i don't know who it was.. i listened, not watched..

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 11:41

***********.thehotjoints.com/2009/10/14/profile-of-fox-businesss-jenna-lee/

I love this Fox Business Anchor - Jenna Lee...isn't she hot?.....))))

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 11:44

***********.foxbusiness.com/our-team/personalities/jenna-lee/

this is a better pic of her...))))))))))))))))))

Лина 16.10.2009 12:40

kind of looks like Tiffany Amber Thiessen from Saved by the Bell
***********.unlulerkervani.com/data/media/919/TiffaniAmb_Guast_4690807.jpg

Мария 16.10.2009 12:52

If that bill was full of pork, why did Republicans not block it? Did they get part of that pork?
Алексей, а что, правда не знаете, что республиканцы не имеют никакой власти в данный момент?:-O

Мария 16.10.2009 13:00

У нас в Сан Франциско сегодня Обама гостит -приехал на ужин с богатыми местными Демократами - $30,000 за тарелку.
Я поехала в Union Square в Neiman Marcus, и угодила прямо в самый разгар антибабамского протеста. Наверное 2 тысячи человек собрались, запрудили все тротуары перед входом в отель St. Francis, где Обама должен был ужинать. Весёлая tea party получилась. Народ очень остроумные плакаты приволок, в основном против Обамакэр и поркулюса. Были ещё nuts from Greenpeace. *Посмотрим, как завтра новости будут освещены.

Светлана Гэмм 16.10.2009 13:30

Маша, но ты до Newman Marcus доехала?...я бы уже не пошла, лучше бы кому-то ужин испортила...:-P (H)

Мария 16.10.2009 13:42

***********.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJjoruQs0Y
Anita Dunn, the Obama appointed White House functioner who declared the war on Fox News, lectures about her most favorite philosopher of all times -Mao Tse-Dung.
This is a must see for all the anti-Fox people. And let us know if you have seen this video on other networks. Please.
PS. Why the liberal female politicians are so ugly, as a rule?(tr)

Лина 16.10.2009 14:04

Народ очень остроумные плакаты приволок, в основном против Обамакэр и поркулюса. Были ещё nuts from Greenpeace.
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good thing they had signs, so you could tell them apart from the other nuts.


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