Having said that – I don’t see any benefits of continuing this conversation– there is NO light at the end of this tunnel.
Lina/Karina – as great as it is talking to you – we will never understand each other.  
Maybe because of life experiences, position in life, income, I have no idea, but it is what it is.
I suggest closing the subject and/or open another one where we could discuss the issue at hand among people with similar believes,
or at least where there is a chance to get our point across.