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Лина 25.07.2009 08:35

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who attended the meeting in June 2003 too, also appears on the documentary series to recount how Mr Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
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"President Bush said that God guided him in what he should do, and this guidance led him to go to Afghanistan to rid it of terrorism after 9/11 and led him to Iraq to fight tyranny," he said.
"We understood that he was illustrating [in his comments] his strong faith and his belief that this is what God wanted."
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Натан Мэвэ 25.07.2009 09:05

Lina, can you reconcile these two statements:

1. "....Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who was also present at the meeting, denies that Bush ever made such a statement."

2. "Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who attended the meeting in June 2003 too, also appears on the documentary series to recount how Mr Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."

I can't. Clearly one of the Abbas's is lying

Лина 25.07.2009 09:08

"In July 2004, he stopped to campaign with some Amish folks at Lapp Electric Service in Smoketown, Pa. Just as the meeting ended, Bush, according to Mennonite Weekly Review columnist Jack Brubaker, told the group: "I trust God speaks through me. Without that I couldn't do my job." This also produced White House denials that Bush used those words."
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Damn those lying Mennonites!:-D
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also:
"But Bush has said similar things on other occasions," Brubaker noted, citing B ob Woodward's "Plan of Attack," where Bush says he's "surely not going to justify the war based on God . . . Nevertheless . . . I pray I be as good a messenger of his will as possible."
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Олег Сах 25.07.2009 09:09

Lina, what did you and all of your compadres said when it was alleged that Obama was present at an anti Israeli meeting? Exactly. Can we leave this hearsay alone?

Лина 25.07.2009 09:13

Natan, the first statement was taken out of wikipdeia - which can be edited by anyone: you, me, GW himself... the second from bbc - a source I consider just a tad more reliable.

Светлана Гэмм 25.07.2009 09:15

Do you, guys, think that Palin decided to resigned because G-d had told her so? (fr)

Натан Мэвэ 25.07.2009 09:23

Lina, I don't whether Bush said whatever he said or not, but please do not confuse a statement by BBC (supposedly independent and unbiased organization, let's stipulate that) with a statement by a former Palestinian politician that BBC simply re-printed.

The key phase in the entire article that you've sited is this:
"Nabil Shaath says:"
This was not presented by BBC as a quote for Bush. This was presented as a quote from Nabil Shaath quoting someone else.

So without getting into more silly semanthycs - it is what it is, "hearsay" as Oleg properly noted...

Натан Мэвэ 25.07.2009 09:27

Getting back to Pailin, she does not strike me as one of those "religious nuts" that everyone on the left so afraid of. She seem to have strong religious convictions - nothing wrong with that, but that's a far cry from being a religious fanatic.

And, btw, fanatics are not only religious. There are plenty of other types - and they are just as dangerous, if not more.

Славик Саж 25.07.2009 09:28

Now back to our regular scheduled programming....
Tune in to Fox news. They will be talking about Palin's rating next.
I will try to recap if you are near TV.
P.S. Lina, Fox News is "other news channel"

Лина 25.07.2009 09:29

Natan, if those words don't sound like dear old George,then I don't know where you've been for the last 8 years... also, did you bother to read the article in post? and how about all the other incidents? if it walks like a duck...
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