walk into a different place.. another yarmolka.
same conversation.. looking for a stone. blah blah..
brings me a stone.. $2500
dark color, i mean i can tell some basic defects..
i say, no.. i want a NICE stone..
ok, he brings a nice stone..
$3500.
i am like, ok i know how much it costs, give me a good price.
he goes $2000
so i say, ok, please show me the papers on it.. he refuses for like 5 minutes.. later he shows me the papers.. it's .5 ct smaller then what he claimed it to be..
tomorrow i will go back, hopefully can find someone without a fucken yarmolka

check these people out...they usually have good quailty stuff...no gimmicks and no kippah...:-)
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Mike, it's all about expectations...unfortnately I learned the hard way too - they are not capablle of making custom-made good quality stuff there...

sorry for the mess...
***********.delicategem.com/
27 W 47th St
NewYork, NY

Phone (212) 354-7449

Svetlana, this topic was NOT about the quality, not about the rings or sapphires... it's about ethics, the lack of basic порядочность i business dealings..
But thanks for the link, i will check them out.

well, people are people...there are always going to unethical and indecent people...some places have more of them, some - less...
how is it different from the insider trading?

for insider trading people go to jail.. these people make their living like this.. hmm.. you gave me an idea..
tomorrow they will try it again ( to get the ring right ) if they fail and don't give me my deposit back i will call the cops and file a fraud lawsuit against them.

(Y) ...here you go - let them learn the hard way...:-)...and that's the beauty of living in a country of law...a lot of times we can send them to where they belong...
that&39;s our job, as consumers, to be smart and look out for the crooks...I would not deal with anyone on 47th if I didn't feel comfortable no matter what they say...
when I lived in NY, never liked small stores, always prefered to go to department stores...
that jewelry store was an exception...and that's why there is a word of mouth - reputation is the most important thing in buseness...didn't work well with Madoff...(tr)

just remembered something (have not been there for some time now) - it's either a rule in that kind of business or some respectable businesses have this kind of policy - money back quaranteed for any unsatisafactory appraisal (of price, quality or size)..in case the characteristics were overstated or value-inflated...so unless the store has this policy, I would not trust them...

I guess Svetlana was right, religion does make people morally superior. sure hope they weren't republicans, to boot.(fr)

today is a fraud bonanza.. i read like 5 articles on different things.. let me paste some here
By Patricia Hurtado
Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- FBI agents arrested seven people in
relation to an ongoing federal investigation of insider trading
in the hedge fund industry, agency spokesman James Margolin said
today in an interview.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation, along with the
Securities and Exchange Commission, were involved in the
arrests, the FBI said. Margolin declined further comment.