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Mike 20.10.2011 11:47

Founded in 1920, the National Bureau of Economic Research is a private, nonprofit, nonpartisan research organization dedicated to promoting a greater understanding of how the economy works. The NBER is committed to undertaking and disseminating unbiased economic research among public policymakers, business professionals, and the academic community.
Over the years the NBER's research agenda has encompassed a wide variety of issues that confront our society. Early research focused on the aggregate economy, examining in detail the business cycle and long-term economic growth. Simon Kuznets' pioneering work on national income accounting, Wesley Mitchell's influential study of the business cycle, and Milton Friedman's research on the demand for money and the determinants of consumer spending were among the early studies done at the NBER.

Mike 20.10.2011 11:48

Ira, yeah.. some blog vs. reputable research organization.. :)
Btw, my sister is not teaching at a charter school and LOVING it.

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 11:50

because the grades of all students are "evaluated in one basket" including Special Ed, and ESL... charter school simply "do not offer" those programs... and applicants turned down by this excuse: we do not have this program in our school, we can not meet the needs of your child, and we will not be in compliance with the State...

Mike 20.10.2011 11:50

btw, charter schools have more regulations and accountability vs. public schools.

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 11:51

they hire teachers that are cheap, without experience, those who are right out from college and have no intentions to stay in this profession

Mike 20.10.2011 11:51

i just saw a study on regulatory compliance factors between charter and non-charter.. anyway.. can you explain to me
why are there lotteries to get into charter schools?

Mike 20.10.2011 11:52

Galina, they hire teachers who are good, and teachers only stay there based on MERIT. Not because you have been there for a long time. Just like any private company.

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 11:52

they are taking this job to pay off their college loan up to $60K and move on after 3 years

Mike 20.10.2011 11:52

huh? my sister is going to be there for a long time.. she has no plans of "moving on".. she is kinda my point of reference..

Mike 20.10.2011 11:54

lotteries are there because they have more students who want to get in vs. space in school

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 11:56

and nobody measure school performance by Scarsdale-Harlem achievement gap.... that is what happened if you combine in one research two parameters that "do not talk to each other"

Mike 20.10.2011 11:57

u can't measure school performance based on student performance? hmm.. what do u measure it on?

Mike 20.10.2011 11:58

we have a conspiracy theory.. now nobody wants to go to charter schools, poor parents are tricked by the lotteries :)

Mike 20.10.2011 12:02

Galina, and on "no ESL in charter schools"
total bullshit.. every charter school has ESL, and some charter schools are based around ESL
***********.boston.com/yourtown/news/somerville/2011/08/in_a_city_of_immigrants_propos.html

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 12:03

this is a new system to evaluate teacher's performance based on the test scores, 25% and the schools are also rated based on that, but there are other measures as well for example past 2010-2011 school year all schools in NYC "slipped", because the state test was graded differently same old game...

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 12:05

No Mike they do not :) I can not speak for the state of Massachusetts, but in NYC they stay clear from them

Ira D 20.10.2011 12:09

Mike, I'm on a mobile, can' t access much now, no the answer might be just this: the lottery is partially white flight from bad neighborhoods ( they cant afford to move, but they CAN apply to a different school and partially by the mere fact that the parents CARE enough to have their kids in a better school. those left behind couldn't care less and/or uneducated and/or ELL and don' t know how to navigate the system. and yes, they don' t provide services for disabled and handicapped kids, some other categories as well which puts them in a better shape. That is not to say , yet again, that they are all bad or worse. My kid goes to a charter and we re aiute happy with it - small, white, with a lot of i volved pRents who pull the muscle and get money for arts, sports, etc. were happy, the teachers there are happy( like your sister) but that does not change the national statistics. I'll throw a vu ch pf links at' ya when I have a chance.

Mike 20.10.2011 12:12

Ira, in fact charter schools have more minorities students on average vs. public schools. It's also in the report.. once u get home read the whole report.

Mike 20.10.2011 12:15

Hyde-Bronx (***.hydebronxny.org) is currently hiring for the following positions for the 2011-12 school year:
Elementary School ESL Teacher

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 12:18

this report was prepared for DOE by 3 principas from California... for Mike Bloomberg and Chancellor Klein in 2009 :))

Mike 20.10.2011 12:19

Principal Investigators:
Caroline M. Hoxby, National Bureau of Economic Research and Stanford University
Sonali Murarka, The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
Jenny Kang, National Bureau of Economic Researc

Mike 20.10.2011 12:21

Charter schools, like regular public schools, are allowed to hire teachers who lack state certification, but the teachers must get certified within two years

Mike 20.10.2011 12:23

This research was funded by the Institute for Education Sciences under Contract R305A040043, a subcontract of the National
Center on School Choice at Vanderbilt University. We are thankful to the New York City Department of Education, especially
Jennifer Bell-Ellwanger and Janet Brand, for their assistance in providing us with administrative data. The New York City
Charter School Center and the individual charter schools participating in the study have been indispensable for their cooperation
in compiling data. We gratefully acknowledge grant and administrative help from staff of the National Bureau of Economic
Researh and from the National Center on School Choice, Vanderbilt University. We also gratefully acknowledge excellent
research assistance from Natalie Cox, Ryan Imamura, Christina Luu, Conrad Miller, Brendon Pezzack, and Ardalan Tajalli. The
authors are responsible for the content of this report.

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 12:24

Mike too bad, you have no idea how the research can be boiled and seasoned according to "interest"

ГАЛИНА МЮТО 20.10.2011 12:25

good night! I have to go and teach tomorrow morning and lets talk about last night republicans debates :) so long!!!!!

Ярослав Сив 20.10.2011 12:58

Люди... ну так за кого всё таки голосовать? Кто будет "НАШ ОТЕЦ СПАСИТЕЛь" ? Тут такие "страсти" понаписали, а "что делать" никто не говорит.

Олег Сах 20.10.2011 13:27

Слава, тебе же нужно "бабу в президенты"? Я предлагаю вариант: беру Галю Лютак в вице президенты, быстро побеждаю на выборах, получаю нобелевскую премию, и покидаю пост, рыбу ловить. Все в ажуре. Дама-президент в Белом Доме, Обама пишет книгу "Как жаль, у меня было столько вариантов...", Ромни с Перри выступают на ринге в WWF, а Кейн продает в Геции под акрополем кепки с надписью 9-9-9

Ярослав Сива 20.10.2011 13:51

Ну ты вот мне наконец то доходчиво обьяснил. А то даже индусы над Америкой смеются. У них Индира Ганди за рулем была, а штатах сплошная дискриминация.

Михаил Дэми 20.10.2011 14:03

Насчет бабы за рулем, вот - не могу не поделиться:
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:-D

Sweet 20.10.2011 14:09

НА ПРОШЛЫХ ВЫБОРАХ ВЫ ДОКАЗАЛИ,ЧТО ВЫ -НЕ РАСИСТ. НА БУДУЩИХ ВЫБОРАХ ДОКАЖИТЕ,ЧТО ВЫ-НЕ ИДИОТ.

Ira D 20.10.2011 15:11

Ага, и докажите это выбрав самого самого умного из группы исключительно одаренных и образованных кандидатов выдвигаемых из рядов республиканской партии. :).

Mike 20.10.2011 21:57

Ira, i am sure by your measure no republican is одаренный и образованный. JD/MBA from Harvard for Romney and career at BCG and Bain.. they are known to hire dummies :)

Jeanna Shyvo 21.10.2011 00:15

JD/MBA from Harvard for Romney
Майк, Скажи пожалуста, когда последний раз Республиканский номини *был с North East ?

Олег Сах 21.10.2011 01:11

А при чем тут это? То же самое что спрашивать "когда последний раз democratic nominee был наполовину негром?" в 2008 году. Не было, так будет.

Ira D 21.10.2011 02:10

JD/MBA from Harvard for Romney and career <p class="d_comment_time " style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 10px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; ">

Ira D 21.10.2011 02:13

Mike: Harvard did a lot of good for Romney, just like Yale for Bush. I don't care where he "purchased" his club membership. I judge the intelligence of the prospective president by what he actually says when he can't purchase the editor. Here are some of his priceless quotes. Enjoy. (H)

Ira D 21.10.2011 02:13

"I'm not a big-game hunter. I've made that very clear. I've always been a rodent and rabbit hunter. Small varmints, if you will.

Ira D 21.10.2011 02:14

"PETA is not happy that my dog likes fresh air." --on strapping his dog to the top of the car

Ira D 21.10.2011 02:15

"Hugo Chavez has tried to steal an inspiring phrase 'Patria o muerte, venceremos.' It does not belong to him. It belongs to a free Cuba." --invoking a phrase that translates to "Fatherland or death, we shall overcome," which Fidel Castro has used to close his speeches for years, and which is associated with Cuban oppression

Ira D 21.10.2011 02:16

"I'm happy to learn that after I speak you're going to hear from Ann Coulter. That's a good thing. I think it's important to get the views of moderates." --right before Coulter called John Edwards a "faggot"


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