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Светлана Гэмм 04.12.2009 01:18

yeah, it's crazy...at least it should be left up to the states...
they claimed it was impossible to regulate it..dunno...

Mike 04.12.2009 01:48

on-line gambling is a part of interstate commerce, so they can/should regulate it.
banning it is just stupid. but we are talk about our government - they are not the brightest people in general.

Mike 04.12.2009 02:13

here is the scoop:
On October 13, 2006, President Bush officially signed into law the Safe Port Act, a bill aimed at enhancing security at U.S. ports.[8] Attached to the Safe Port Act was a provision known as the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act(UIGEA). According to the UIGEA, "unlawful internet gambling" means toplace, receive, or otherwise knowingly transmit a bet or wager by meansof the internet where such bet is unlawful under any law in the Statein which the bet is initiated, received, or otherwise made. Thus, theUIGEA prohibits online gambling sites from performing transactions withAmerican financial institutions.
I this the current state of things is that a bunch of Dem senators are getting ready a bill to overturn UIGEA and Obama is supportive of it.

Лина 04.12.2009 03:19

These people were not educated here, they did not use any social resources of this country prior to their arrival and will not use any after their retirement. Same for grandchildren. Isn't it only fair that those elderly who were robbed off their pensions by Mother Russia will receive a little portion of the benefits that their children and grandchildren earned but never used?
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never used? are you saying their children and grandchildren will never attend any public schools, will not reveive any financial aid, and will not collect medicare or social security benefits - since their share has already been paid out to their parents/grandparents?

Лина 04.12.2009 03:22

Bloomber have switched to Independent before the last election but it does not cancel 4 straight elections in which a Republican was elected a mayor
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and prior to running for office, he was a lifelong democrat

Олег Сах 04.12.2009 03:26

Lina, the amount of income taxes, sales taxes, commuter taxes, property taxes, etc. that these people will pay to the state will be far greater than any amount that they will dip in to.

Лина 04.12.2009 03:34

just because they're not "dipping into" the taxes paid, doesn't mean they're not directly benefiting from them... taxes cover more than just ssi payments, medicaid, and foodstamps. why should theybe entitled toa greater tax benefit than any other tax payer?

Олег Сах 04.12.2009 03:39

why should theybe entitled toa greater tax benefit than any other tax payer?
Did they start using new "special" ink in NY Times? All of you libs are getting stranger by day. Did I say anything about greater tax benefits? If you don't know what I am talking about, then don't cut'n'paste anything that you want to argue with.

Лина 04.12.2009 03:51

Did I say anything about greater tax benefits? If you don't know what I am talking about, then don't cut'n'paste anything that you want to argue with.
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I know exactly what you're talking about... if you and Joe the Americanpay the exact same amount of taxes over your lifetimes, but only your parents received public aid (hypothetically) - which one of you gets a bigger bang for their buck?
I'm not even mentioning the taxpayer subsidized pension... although that too seems rather hypocritical.

Олег Сах 04.12.2009 03:56

My parents have worked for 18 years each. They get pensions that they earned. They get medical coverage from the companies that they worked for. Their parents were not around to come with us. Our family is not even an example. I was relating to Julia's comments about hypocrisy of FSU immigrants becoming conservative while sucking a big government tit from the other side.


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