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Yes.
The only question I have - will anybody in the "Mainstream" media talk about it from this perspective. |
they won't, because it's not. if you want to compare it to anything, then you can compare it to the Exxon Valdez oil spill, except on a much larger scale and with the oil still gushing. unlike Katrina (which was a case of gross government incompetence), I believe Obama's administration is doing pretty much everything that can be done...
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I believe Obama's administration is doing pretty much everything that can be done...
Блажен, кто верует:-) They are keeping the boot on BP's neck very well. Good job, obama! The lawyers are very helpful in cleaning up the oil too. It's direct President responsibility to take over and become a crisis manager-in-chief in the case of the environtmental deisaster of this magnitude. The explosion happened in the federal waters, so it is Obama's responsibility from day 1. He proved himself the most INCOMPETENT manager. No wonder, no experience, except keeping his boot on somebody's neck Chicago style. |
No wonder, no experience, except keeping his boot on somebody's neck Chicago style.
------------------------------------------------------------- experience in stopping and/or containing a massive oil spill??? isthere really something the administration should be doing that theyaren't, or are you just flapping your gums? the only thing more absurdthan your logic would be blaming GW for not stopping Katrina in its tracks. |
Ну может не совсем Катрина... с Катриной ясно было, что людей нужно было срочно спасать в первый же день после урагана, а с этой нефтью ...по-моему до большинства ещё и не дошло, что это экологическая катастрофа мирового масштаба и чем она грозит в ближайшем будущем
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Обаме или
1. захотел использовать эту катастрофу, чтобы *прикрыть *offshore drilling, и протащать green jobs for his campaign contributors. или 2. *Абсолютно некомпетентен как руководитель, так как никогда в жизни не должен был принимать никаких решений. |
Obama is a mob organizer.
... this is still coming... future is just around the corner. |
It's direct President responsibility to take over and become a crisis manager-in-chief ... He proved himself the most INCOMPETENT manager.
No, it is not his responsibility as a president. There is no law that required him to act. He could, but he did not have to. It is not incompetence, it is lack of leadership. |
Странный вопрос на засыпку! Или играем в КВН!?!
Назавите главного героя в фильме Гайдая "Брильянтовая Рука" ? Продолжение темы после правильного ответа... |
Не дожидаясь правильного ответа, чтобы не повторять ошибки с "Оскорблением его величества" из Булгакова (старожители группы помнят). Перехожу к существу...
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когда дочки мои пригласили папу в итальянский ресторан отметить его 61 летие и схватились в не примеримой борьбе за демократию на английском, весь ресторан притих от их реторики – Обама отдыхает –
После чего юная демократка студентка Бебсон колледжа Янка, любительница Обамы, гордо села за руль шикарнешего Лексуса её друга, а остальные республиканцы во главе её папы поплелись к очень маленькому кару Юры. Дочька Милка, полный доктор фармокологии из Бреган Вуман госпиталя с около $100,000 доходом и я ждали пока он пристроит огромную лопату в салон автомобиля, чтобы втиснутся туда. Тогда и произнес эту сокрометную фразу преуспевающий программист- « Пока у них (демократов) в стране бардак, надо дело делать!» Ребята бабки в недвижимость вкладывают.... Слався, слався Обама – Ипотечного Кризиса победитель!!! |
и говоря словами песенки из «Айболита-66»Это даже хорошо, что пока нам плохо!»
Р.С. Отказываюсь от авторства своей картинки Иллюстрации к сказке Лиса и журавль Senate Approves $787B Stimulus Plan One of the biggest breaks will come from changes in the alternative minimum tax, which could mean a $2,300 savings for a family of four. The AMT was originally meant to ensure tha из Альбома «Кризис не в Мире, а в головах» со всеми её комментариями. А так же присоединяюсь к мнению моего затя, программиста из ИБМ (со-автора сайта ***.newsflashr.com), |
Так вот *этот любимый Шеф, рука которого постоянно появлялась в кадрах с огромным брильянтом на пальце, зарыл клад, а затем –«Я нашел клад и передал его Государству, а на причитающуюся мне премию, по совету друзей, купил новую модель автомобиля «Москвич» ...
Таки и я пою эту оду президенту Бараку Обаме в честь его 870 миллиардного стимула-покета, львинной долей которого были 13 центов в час возвращенные мне, как и всем работающим в Амнрике к Tax Returnу по итогом кризисного 2009. Получив причитающую мне премию (такс возврат в сумме $400) я купил, по совету друзей, у Артака его бизнес - пушкарку *на Арсенал Моллу за каких то вшивиньких $10,000 баксов и теперь опережающими темпами двигаюсь впереди Америке всей к процветанию, |
Ода Обамовскому Стимул-покету!
Правильно, главный герой в фильме – Николай Романов, шеф контрабандистов, фильм о чем - о брильянтах, когда 28 апреля 1969 я попал в Лужники, где состоялась примьера фильма, билеты продавали в живую очередь по 4 в руки. На последние командировочные за 3 рубля купил с рук лишний билетик у какого-то билетного жучка и в едином порыве с 24 тысячами зрителей стадиона, стоя опладировал съемочной группе и жителям Москвы, читающим в титрах: - «Съемочная группа благодарит жителей Москвы за предоставленные драгоценности»... |
Михаилу Губарёву: *There is a law called "Clean water act", which states that the President of the United States has to take over in the event of the disaster of this proportion to protect federal waters. *
Obama wanted this disaster not to be wasted *( to parafrase his Chicago buddy Rahm Emmanuel) and use it as an opportunity to ban offshore oil drilling and help his green business buddies with huge government subsidies ( because by now everyone knows that green busines can not survive on its own due to its inefficiency and needs a lot of tax payers money ). |
well, not exactly. The law requires the president to ensure oil spill cleanup in the case of significant threat to public health. it is not the case so far. Again, it is lack of leadership. One can argue that there is political reasons for that. but lack of actions on his side has nothing to do with incompetence as a manager
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I really think that the idea about the administration not interfering in this disaster because of it's own political motives is one of the most cynical things I've heard. Not to say that I'm happy with the way it's handled- it is a total chaos and a real tragedy, but to say they are happy about it is really .....almost paranoid. My husband, who is a chemical engineer and an expert in surface/solutions cleaning ( if anyone is interested, I can provide with his articles) is telling me that this issue is so enormously complex, we simply can not "wrap our mind" around it. ALL engineers are now thinking about the solutions, there are thousands of calls to the best ,most brilliant minds around the globe - so far there is no single workable answer to it.......
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They ( all the best minds and engineers) had to be doing it from the very beginning. Instead of keeping boot on the neck of BP ( фу, как грубо и не по-президентски, а как-то очень по-Чикaгски), they had to create a a sense that this issue if extremely important to the country, and put all their best resources to the rescue. That's what a true leader would do. But Obama is incompetent in all areas of life except agitation and propaganda.
The obama administration has everything backwards: they want to control our lives when we don't want them to meddle with it, and they don't want to do anything when we ask them for help ( borders, oil spill). This is one of those times when the federal government role becomes critical. |
they want to control our lives when we don't want them to meddle withit, and they don't want to do anything when we ask them for help (borders, oil spill).
--------------------------------------------------------------- you sound like a brainwashed zombie - do you have any thoughts of your own? |
"They ( all the best minds and engineers) had to be doing it from the very beginning"
- they did. If you follow some technical publications. FOX news doesn't talk about it. Unfortunately, if one doesn't understand complexity, it is very easy to judge. |
Every time you hear something like:
" oh, this is so complex..." - it means "you are so stupid, we will tell you what to think about it" What is soooo complex? If this is dirty now, we will clean it! Sorry, someone who cares will clean it. It is obvious the government does not care. The only think they do care about is to strengthen the central power. |
weren't we sold the smartest thing president EVAH??!! :-) and now it's too complex.. I bet healthcare is even more comlex ..for the government to fix, but they are not afraid to take on.. maybe they should be..
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this is what is being done:
***********.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-relief-wells-20100606,0,6040854.story?page=1 |
you sound like a brainwashed zombie - do you have any thoughts of your own?
От зомби с промытыми мозгами слышу ( ответ на твоём уровне, снежинка) |
and this is what had been done by the Obama administration a year preceding the incident..
(Washingtonpost.com) The Interior Department exempted BP's calamitous Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact analysis last year, according to government documents, after three reviews of the area concluded that a massive oil spill was unlikely. The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 -- and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions -- show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf. ***********.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/05/politics/washingtonpost/main6462513.shtml |
Instead of keeping boot on the neck of BP
Maria, you think if government left BP alone, the BP would finish cleaning already? |
От зомби с промытыми мозгами слышу ( ответ на твоём уровне, снежинка)
------------------------------------------------------------------ I expected nothing more from you, and as usual, you didn't disappoint. |
No, but when a tragedy happens a competent leader brings people together and works on fixing it instead of demonizing what suits his agenda and ideology especially when his own administration shares the blame by exempting BP from following the regulations..
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it's funny how before this catastrophe happened, some were yelling "drill, baby, drill"... but now that the shit hit the fan, you're all looking for a scapegoat. trully pathetic, yet sadly predictable.
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when his own administration shares the blame by exempting BP from following the regulations
--------------------------------------------------- where does it say that? |
the Interior Department exempted BP's calamitous Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact analysis
---------------------------------------------------------------- exempting from a detailed impact analysis, doesn't mean that there wasno impact analysis done at all, and it definitely doesn't mean theywere exempt from following regulations. |
furthermore, "BP stated in their permit application that a spill was “unlikely,” andclaimed that if a spill did occur it would cause “no significantadverse impacts.” The company's optimistic scenario echoes that of theMMS itself, which conducted a study in 2007" (remind me again, who was in office then?) "of the potential ecologicalimpacts of oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico, and concluded that a deepwater spill would not reach the shoreline and would not exceed 4,600barrels."
if anything, this further reiterates the fact that any data obtained from the previous administration (with a proven track record of incompetence and corruption) is unreliable and should not be trusted. |
Слушайте, ну это же всем должно быть понятно, что если бы могли, давно бы уже законопатили это нефтяное извержение и собрали вытекшую нефть....(md) BP теряет миллиарды долларов, и это для них лучшая мотивация, чем сапог нашего президента на своей шее..(tr)
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Зоя, конечно, *это понятно.. противно, что Обама корчит из себя невинного мальчика и продолжает заниматься своим любимым занятием- поливанием грязью большого бизнеса, когда его люди дали разрешение ВР это делать.. а сам он получил от ВР 3.5 миллиона в 2008 в свою кампанию.. так что он, как президент, тоже разделяет за это вину, и хватит играть в популиста и ругать только кого-то, кто имеет много денег, а лучше бы собрал самых лучших инженеров вне компании и послушал, что они говорят.. короче, наш президент это подстрекатель in chief, а на конкретные действия он не способен..
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Может кто-нибудь меня опровергнет? Понятно, что правительство не обладает техникой и технологиями для запечатывания трубы на глубине и сбора нефти с поверхности. Такие технологии есть у нефтяных компаний. Опять же понятно, что компания, непричастная к катастрофе, сама влезать в проблему не будет. Имидевые риски. С запечатыванием трубы на глубине все сложнее, но там как раз можно было бы оставить BP. Но правительство могло бы нанять или проплатить лизинг техники для очистки нефтяного пятна у этих компаний, возглавить операцию по очистке. Снять имиджевый риск с компаний, правда, в этом случае этот риск лег бы на президента. Есть ли какие нибудь законодательные препоны у такого подхода? Может ли правительство заняться очисткой, наняв частные компании, а потом выставить счет BP? Или это невозможно без согласия BP, a правительство не имеет право отстранить BP от операции?
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Michail, you areabsolutley right..
what is sad theat big business and all governments are in bed together. What the Right does not understand is that on one hand they want the Govmt to "leave business alone" and decrease their taxes, etc.... but,on the other hand, when critical situation happens, they all scream " Oh, no, where is the Big Government? " I am just as disappointed with the lack of expediency, but the legal fabric of all of this was sewn a while back, at the times of "Drill, baby, drill!" The thing is , you either have regulations - or you don't. ( you you change laws in exchange for contributions) This is the one to teach us to love regulations. |
what is sad theat big business and all governments are in bed together.
I don't understand - we've been promised a completely different, transparent, competent government..and what we got is more of the same + hypocrisy (taking contributions from big business, giving them green light to do things and then badmouthing them when things go wrong).. BP is primarily responsible for cleaning up the spill, but there were lots of things that the government could have and should have done and didn't do.. but the reason the oil companies are forced to drill that deep is because of the stupid regulations which prohibits them from drilling closer to shore which is safer.. the reactionary decision to stop drilling offshore will only result in drilling more in other parts of the world which will result in more spills and is much less environmentally safe than here.. also not allowing drilling on land (ie ANWAR) makes them drilling offshore and deep.. |
На самом деле, эта авария - просто подарок для администрации Обамы. Теперь под шумок можно протолкнуть American Power Act, а это не просто ужас, а ужас-ужас-ужас...
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противно, что Обама корчит из себя невинного мальчика и продолжаетзаниматься своим любимым занятием- поливанием грязью большого бизнеса,когда его люди дали разрешение ВР это делать
--------------------------------------------------------------- you're conveniently overlooking one very important detail. the decision was based on the research conducted under the previous administration. we all should have known better, unfortunately, some of us never learn: "but the reason the oil companies are forced to drill that deep isbecause of the stupid regulations which prohibits them from drillingcloser to shore which is safer." |
На самом деле, эта авария - просто подарок для администрации Обамы.Теперь под шумок можно протолкнуть American Power Act, а это не простоужас, а ужас-ужас-ужас...
----------------------------------------------------------------- a 9/11 bil podarok dlya GW... ne znau chto mozhno budet protolknut' seichas, but I'm sure it will pale in comparison to all the crap that was shoved down out throats after the 9/11 attacks, not the least of which was the war in Iraq. |
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