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Ирэна Как 20.05.2008 13:45

Where are you getting your news? McCain will talk to Hamas??? This is really good!!!! Can I get your source please and the rest of the ones you mentioned??
You want to compare Soviets with Iran, Syria and Hamas???
This is a good one too:)

Vladimir Tovk 20.05.2008 13:48

Looking for the source (just for you even though it is quite easy to do on your own - if you want to). Let me get it straight ! Cold war USSR with nukes is less threat then Iran and Syria?

Vladimir Tov 20.05.2008 13:49

***********.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/14/ST2008051404020.html

Thursday, May 15, 2008;
Page A04


The United States should construct a combination of incentives and pressure to engage Iran, and may have missed earlier opportunities to begin a useful dialogue with Tehran, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said yesterday.

Vladimir Tovk 20.05.2008 13:51

***********.msnbc.msn.com/id/17327091/
“I am prepared to meet my counterpart or an Iranian representative at
any time if Iran will suspend its enrichment and reprocessing
activities. That should be a clear signal,” Rice said in Washington.

Vladimir Tov 20.05.2008 13:55

***********.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975271.html
Republican John McCain on Tuesday promised to apply
massive diplomatic and financial pressure on Iran to try to prevent it
from developing a nuclear weapon if elected president.

Often accused of hawkish policies, McCain told MSNBC's "Hardball"
it would be difficult to convince the American people to go to war
against Iran.

Михаил Штам 20.05.2008 14:01

Oh, Haaretz, MSNBC and WP are your soures? But even from those contaminated streams you caught nothing.

Vladimir Tovk 20.05.2008 14:04

"Oh, Haaretz, MSNBC and WP are your soures? But even from those contaminated streams you caught nothing." My point exactly ! You must be listening/respect only to Limbaugh? (I can apologize if I am wrong! ) But the point is do not shoot the messenger ! :-D

Михаил Штам 20.05.2008 14:06

Very interesting background information about the orcestrated "apeasment outrage"
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis
May 16, 2008
According to DEBKAfile’s political sources, Bush was furious when he found out that both Obama and Hillary Clinton had sent representatives to the international conference in Jerusalem to solicit campaign supporters in Israel...
The sensitivity of the Obama campaign to this issue prompted Ross and Kurtzer to leave the Knesset visitors’ gallery before the end of Bush speech to brief the senator on the passages denouncing would-be negotiators with “terrorists and radicals” in the context of those who appeased Hitler in 1939. They urged him to respond strongly without delay else all their lobbying efforts on his behalf would be wasted.
Obama took their advice.
***********.debka.com/article.php?aid=1349

Михаил Штам 20.05.2008 14:07

DEBKAfile (Hebrew: ????????) is an Israeli, Jerusalem-based English language open source military intelligence website with commentary and analyses on terrorism, intelligence, security, and military and political affairs in the Middle East.
It began in the summer of 2000, and has since received Forbes' Best of The Web award.[1] Forbes identifies the best part of the website as being its archives, but decries the fact that "most of the information is attributed to unidentified sources."
DebkaFile reporting relies heavily on apparently well-placed sources within the Israeli military and intelligence communities...
Because of the close cooperation between the Israeli and United States military, DebkaFile sometimes offers behind-the-scenes insight into real-time U.S. foreign policy as expressed, for example, in actual ship or troop movements versus the "spun" or even intentionally misleading public statements of government and military officials

Ирэна Как 20.05.2008 14:10

Yes, you are right. It's easy to find various source. The question is how cradible are they?
and.....
***********.msnbc.msn.com/id/17327091/ “I am prepared to meet my counterpart or an Iranian representative at any time if Iran will suspend its enrichment and reprocessing activities. That should be a clear signal,” Rice said in Washington.
Exactly!!! She said "IF", but Obama is ready to unconditionally meet with all of the fanatics and probably tell them that they have been behaving badly lately.
And Mihail is totally right. Not Rice nor Gates, are running for the office of the President of this country. McCain has his own agenda and I bet you it's not the one where he will meet with every fanatic that Obama wants to meet with. And by the way? Where is the story about him meeting with Hamas? All I've seen is that he was totally against Carter going there and things it's an idiotic idea to meet with terrorists.


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