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Мария 16.12.2009 08:48

Maria - what is with you and the Knee-jerk thing you keep repeating? Can you possibly come up with some of YOUR OWN ideas rather than repeating crap you hear on FOX?
Why should I? It's a great description of someone who does not have his/her own thoughts, just a reflective reaction based on the party guidelines.
I will keep using it, and also will continue using existing wheels on my car instead of inventing my own.
And, BTW, I have never heard this on FOX -have you?;-)

Мария 16.12.2009 09:35

Aleksei
Can't agree with any one of your points.
1. Palin does not project herself as a victim. The media does it for her. And since you did not read Palin's book, you can only rely on what media feeds you.
2. She is an excellent politician. She was able to unseat very powerful Republican rival, and several other established politicians. In her governing, she was more bipartisan than any Democrat can imagine.
Quitting the Governorship does not have anything to do with her ability to govern. It has to do with the huge personal debt and the hassle for the Alaskan people. If you read the book, you will find out the details ( you should read the book - you read the 2000 -page health care bill, didn't you? So, you can quote первоисточник:-D ).
3. Her national program is a conservative one. The opposite of Obama's.

Мария 16.12.2009 09:43

There are many powerful and smart women in the Republican party. What's with that one?
Yes, Michelle Bachmann, for example. A true patriot and true conservative. So, what is happening with her?
She is being dragged through mud and smeared by your favorite media.:-|
The moment a really great conservative woman appears on a political horizon, the little trolls in the media go to their busy dirty work.
So, why would any good , honest conservative person go to politics? Most don't for this reason. But some have that extra strength, courage and patriotism -like Michelle and Sarah, and that's when the left go berserk (md) :-D

Светлана Гэмм 16.12.2009 09:47

btw, during the vice-presidential debate she was awesome...she mopped the floor with Biden...whoever didn't like it just didn't understand what she was saying..(ch) Biden was his usual demagoguery-self (ch) and actually said a lof things that were factually wrong, but who's checking?...(ch)

Mike 16.12.2009 10:05

during the VP debate she was horrible, she did not answer the questions that were asked, but those that she was prepped for.
Biden was not much better tho

Mike 16.12.2009 10:28

watch it again. i remember half the question asked were answered "let me talk about energy, as a governor of alaska.. "
i was like WTF?? the question was about bankruptcy law that just passed..
but hey, whatever floats your boat :)

Светлана Гэмм 16.12.2009 10:38

I am watching it..(ch) ok, запарилась там (ch) but she caught Biden criticizing McCain for giving oil-companies tax breaks, and Obama voted for the same bill..
I agree she was not ready for the prime-time, but she still deserves my respect for her views, being a good governor not like some voted present in their state senate, being an honest person..

Mike 16.12.2009 10:50

yeah, she had talking points that she was prepped for...
even a year later i am yet to see her give an interview to anyone but foxnews ( where i am sure she gets the questions before )

Светлана Гэмм 16.12.2009 11:18

and Obama is not given questions before by the drive by media..(ch) why do you think he doesn't want to be interviewed by Fox? (ch)
speaking of the angry left, they are now attacking Lieberman's wife...that's something...8oI

Алексей Пэтк 16.12.2009 14:22

1. Palin does not project herself as a victim. The media does it forher. And since you did not read Palin's book, you can only rely on whatmedia feeds you.
What do you mean? She keeps telling IN HER INTERVIEWS how press treats her badly, how everyone in is against her, etc. She was terrible during the debate -- kept repeating those talking points, I totally agree with Mike here.
2. She is an excellent politician. [...]
Quitting the Governorship does not haveanything to do with her ability to govern.
It has everything to do with the ability to govern. "Quitter" = "bad politician" in my book.

So, you can quoteпервоисточник:-D ).
I did not read her book. And I do not consider it a true source -- c'mon, do you really expect a person to criticize her own action in her own book? Rationalizing -- that's what she does.


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