Юля, каждый из нас уверен в своей правоте... И его правота основана на его знаниях, опыте и т.д. И ни один из нас не переубедит другого...
Я уже говорил и повторюсь... Обама или Клинтон на сегодняшний день намного хуже для Америки, чем Маккейн. Вот такое у меня мнение...
А кто будет Президентом, мы увидим через 4 года..

<h2 class="images" style="font-weight: normal;">P.S. Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics...</h2>Even if you win, you're still retarded.

Таня, передай пожалуйста своему мужу пожелания здоровья, счастья и успехов в работе.
И тебе тоже!
:)

Виталий , the feeling is mutual, posting a site link which directly contradicts your argument is funny! (problem you were not joking) (N)

polnost'u soglasna s Vladimirom, Bitaliy vi tolko viskazivaete svoe mnenie, a faktov dlya argumenta ne privodite nikakih, kotorie bi podderzali vashe mnenie.. Tatyana, voobshe v svoem soobshenie na moy lichniy profile obozvala Ameriku Canadskoy b... k tomu ze ona iz Canadi, i protivorechit svoim ze slovam na kazdom shagu - ee mnenie nikto krome vas (t.k. ona prodolzaet vam podsipat komplimenti) v ser'ez ne vosprinimaet (ona etogo ne zasluzila). esli hotite znat ee nastoyashee mnenie ob Americe i Rossii - pishite mne, ya vam s udovolstviem pereshlu eto soobshenie - sami mozete ubeditsy kakaya lichnost kakogo urovnya obrazovania na VASHEY storone argumenta.. perelestnite stranichki 4-5 nazad na forume i pochitayte statistiku o voyne.

Vitaliy v etom to i smisl argumenta.. esli vi schitaete bessmislennim razgovarivat na temu na forume - zachem vi togda suda zahodite i pishite? nikto ne pitaetsy pereubedit vas lichno esli vi etogo sami ne zelaete - eto vashe lichnoe delo.. ludi kto chitaet i nichego ne pishet - oni delaut svoi vivodi - i kto-to menyaet svoe mnenie v odnu ili druguu storonu, kto-to net.. i kstati kto budet sleduushim presidentom mi uznaem v noyabre etogo goda, a ne 2013 godu...

"А кто будет Президентом, мы увидим через 4 года.." Это описка. Конечно в ноябре.

Stan, sorry you have allergy for liberal blogs, would it have been
beter if I posted a youtube link? Do not shoot the messenger! You
bought Chamberlain to reiterate "Democrats are appeasers" statement ,
hence my link on what is exactly appeasing. BTW Senator in the analogy
brought by Bush was actually ...... Republican . What do you know! on Clinton... how about Omnibus Spending Bill which cut taxes for lower class and increased for the top 1.2% while implementing spending restraints. FYI spending under Clinton rose less then 3% a year under Bush more then 7% a year.

but to be truthful, I doubt Obama will go through, Clinton would have had a better choice. Sad, that people would vote for Bush the second. (maverick my ass :-D)

and if Gore were the president , I bet we would not have been in Iraq
now, despite the fact that some Dems voted for it (note the was a
sizable vote against)... so do you still think there would not be a
difference . Current oil prices are influenced by Iraq, Iran
instability and 800+ billion direct cost of it. Never mind tax cut
for the ultra rich! When sh&T hit the fan Bush gave tax cut to
lower and middle class (stimulus), not an additional capital gains give
away.

is that masquito flying around forum again? oh, it's Tatyana with her brilliant ideas about secret clubs of Harvard (which she doesn't even knows correct names for or their history)...

sorry...just couldn't help... she called me all kinds of names...and didn't apologize...

:-@ :-@ :-@ :-@
I can't be watching you all night long
SO PLAY NICE...........ALL of you
8oI 8oI 8oI 8oI

i can not imagine how you think tha bushes (mccain) will get the 3rd term. 81% of the people think we are on the wrong term, bushes approval rating hit 31% .
obama had a well oiled machnie. look at what he did to clinton family.
sveta do not take comments too personal, since i do not want to receive hate mail from you. but you need to stop saying that politics is for men only it is deamining. where are you from dark ages? are you saying that women can not think for themselves and can not have opinions about politics. my last question since "we can not play politics" so everything you are writiing has been dicated by your man?

sorry not sveta i meant tanya.
also please do not use caps. the internet etiquette tells us to write in caps if we need to shout or scream. unless you are really screamimg at everyone to be heard.

info from Obama's website: Cap and Trade: Obama supports implementation of a
market-based cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions by the
amount scientists say is necessary: 80 percent below 1990 levels by
2050. Obama's cap-and-trade system will require all pollution credits
to be auctioned. A 100 percent auction ensures that all polluters pay
for every ton of emissions they release, rather than giving these
emission rights away to coal and oil companies. Some of the revenue
generated by auctioning allowances will be used to support the
development of clean energy, to invest in energy efficiency
improvements, and to address transition costs, including helping
American workers affected by this economic transition. ***********.barackobama.com/issues/energy/

from the same page: Invest $150 Billion over 10 Years in Clean Energy:
Obama will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next
generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the
commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of
commercial-scale renewable energy, invest in low-emissions coal plants,
and begin the transition to a new digital electricity grid. A principal
focus of this fund will be devoted to ensuring that technologies that
are developed in the U.S. are rapidly commercialized in the U.S. and
deployed around the globe.

Julia, cutting and pasting from the candidate's website press release? That's a laugh! (fr)

was frightened to pop in the forum.... :-D

Do you guy really sent revengeble mails to each other if points of view do not coinside?

on the same issue from McCain website (no real plans or promises): He has offered common sense approaches to limit carbon emissions by
harnessing market forces that will bring advanced technologies, such as
nuclear energy, to the market faster, reduce our dependence on foreign
supplies of energy, and see to it that America leads in a way that
ensures all nations do their rightful share.

Stan, do you have something to say or you here just to run your mouth? And what is wrong with you people sending messages to my profile all the time?? Stan, Vitaliy, Tatyana!! keep it IN THE FORUM!

Julia, rightful share? How many of the countries that sign Kyoto protocols actually reduced their emissions as promised? I don't buy into this global warming hype, anyway. Another one of the left's bogeymen.

julia, my apology abouto sending the msg to you personally. Wasn't my intent, I am just used on writing messages from that menu that pops over your photo vs. the dobavit' button. Anyway, I don't think "having something useful to say" is constituted by cutting and pasting from your candidate's PR.

Stan, bring some facts on the table.. anything, just about anything! or do not waste my time and do not address to me.

Julia, I asked you a question. How many nations that signed the Kyoto protocols actually complined with what outlined in there? You haven't answered, yet you pretend to deal in facts? Are you into empty promises and resolutions?

Stan, to your question: here is one of the countries you need to study
- Brazil... I didn't take time to do research for every country, I am
sure there more out of 179 of them.. We are responsible for ourselves.
And the fact that you didn't take time to learn more about global
warming is just a proof of your laziness or carelessness.

Eugene is right it is like awakened giant.. the only thing is if we
just make a switch to a renewable energy and all of the machinery and
auto industries will have to make changes, just takes US, UK, Germany
(I don't have much hopes for Russia - they totally ignore the problem),
Japan and China - and we there, everyone else will have to follow.
Which country got biggest market for cars? is it hard to realize? if we
make switch everyone else will HAVE TO follow.

Julja said: on the same issue from McCain website .........., reduce our dependence on foreign
supplies of energy, and see to it that America leads in a way that
ensures all nations do their rightful share.
how he is gonna reduce our dependence on foreign supplies of energy.....

it sounds like electioneer worgs only....is there something more certain what could confirm that?

Julia, Brazil, as a developing nation, was not required to meet any targets as established by the Kyoto Protocols. Try again. And I've learned plenty about the global warming, just as I have about the looming ice age that was all the rage in the 1970's. *-)

Sviatlana, that is the point.. there is none... he is not giving us an
exact plan, he just saying what people want to hear.. he uses lines
which he can twist around later.. Obama and Hillary got huge long pages
on the issue, McCain got very few paragraphs with no plans.. If you look at the next page I posted Obama's ideas from his site.

Julia, that's because global warming is not a big part of his platform. A fact that appeals to his voters. (Y)

Julia, what's even a bigger laugh is that you didn't even read my question. I didn't ask how many nations signed the Kyoto protocols, I asked many of them actually complied with what was outlined in there. Seriously, your inabilitiy to comprehend what's written in plain English" is just a proof of your laziness or carelessness. " :-D

Stan, sure he doesn't have any plans for that, because he will not
have MONEY for that, as he will stay in Iraq till 2013 minimum
(according to his personal fantasies he shared with us couple of days
ago) and we will continue spending $5000 or more per second on the war
(not including Afghanistan and potentially Iran - which will be over oil
again)..

Wait a minute Stan, so now you are saying Brazil didn't comply with
protocol? do you even take a time to google Brazil - it is a leader in
renewable energy right now..(in case you didn't know or don't know how
to use google)...By the way China is on it's way, they work really hard
on wind and solar power technology. They claim they will be a leader in
a few years..

Julia, I am saying that Brazil, or rather what's Koyoto protocol is saying, is that Brazil, as a developing nation did not have targets to meet, or, in other words, comply. As for Brazil's ethanol venture, that's great! Does wonders for corn prices, not to mention all the slave labor they import to fuel the renewable energy boom. Once again, when the rich, elitist leftists at the top decide that they are bored and need a new pet project - its the poor that pay. As for China, wow, "They claim", that's great! They claim! I mean if China says so.... But I am still waiting for you to tell me which country that signed Koyoto actually complied with meeting the targets as outlined in the protocol. What's the matter. Having trouble finding 1?

your-welcome, Sviatlana.. Have a nice day everyone, I will be back....after weekend....Stan, Mihail and Vitaliy - you have some time to do some research.. see you Monday...

Julia, still waiting for you to come up with just one country that met its targets. Have a good weekend!

Okay, boys & girls, Ladies & Gentlemen,,,
Pumpshotgun is awaken & pulled me to the shore
Saturday morning,,,,
HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND EVERY :-D BODY !

"your-welcome, Sviatlana.. Have a nice day everyone, I will be
back....after weekend....Stan, Mihail and Vitaliy - you have some time
to do some research.. see you Monday..."
No, I don't have to, sweety. You're not an opponent. You're entertainer... ;) If you know what I mean..;)
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

wow, I did not realize i was the beholder :-D on the perfomance...
upps, sorry. Hope ,folk, you don not take everything personaly.
..vanished in air ....