now it's the perfect time to remind that McCain's great-grandpa owned Obama's grandpa..them republican FOX news watchers 8oI

Svetlana, please READ the constitution.. for some reason i have an impression you never really read it.. at least based on the statements that you make.
BTW, the only part of healthcare reform of questionable constitutionality is forcing people to buy health insurance, but even that can be argued either way and it will most likely be for the supreme court to decide.

exactly, slaves were considered chattel- no different from livestock or cattle... what was so unconstitutional about owning sheeps or horses?

now it's the perfect time to remind that McCain's great-grandpa owned Obama's grandpa
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his white great-grandpa?

I live in a republican district, so even my public school is ok...I teach my own kids reading and math, hisotry, religion - they are way ahead of their peers...FYI, the TV is off - I am reading a book for a change..and you?
I RE-read the Constitution just yeasterday...which part that I said, Михаил, confused you AGAIN?

вот че-то вспомнилось, не совсем в тему, хотя с вашими постами тоже не соскучишься...:-D
"Миша... Миша.. ... Пошевелив пальцами ног, Степа догадался, что лежит в носках, трясущейся рукою провел по бедру, чтобы определить, в брюках он или нет, и не определил. *...:-O
M.Булгаков

Svetlana, maybe it's time for you to read it again.. before you make statements about slavery being "totally unconstitutional" at the time when it was written..

now it's the perfect time to remind that McCain's great-grandpa owned Obama's grandpa

Can we clarify this statement please? I thought his father was just studing in USA?

He-he.... you know, drinking alcohol WAS unconstitutional at some point. Slavery was very much constitutional -- slaves were considered livestock. "It's our (American) way of life" -- was argued in the South right before Civil War.

I don't think you nailed it again :-) few posts below you ridiculed the Constitution because it allowed for slavery (which is an ownership of people), and now you are sending me to read it again as some kinda sacred document in your opinion (dt) maybe I am not the one confused? *-)

enough wasting my time here
how many times will you say this? I thought you had decided to stop long time ago...:-)

Sveltana, I "ridiculed" it???
WTF, do you know the meaning of the word??
Stating a well-documented fact does not equal ridicule, even in the most conservative district..
Now, in order to KNOW that fact you should in fact read that said document.

so now you're saying that the constitution is not a sacred document and just because something is notmentioned in it, doesn't mean it's un-American?

Can we clarify this statement please? I thought his father was just studing in USA?
Света, :-D at one point they didn't have student visas, so McCain's great grandpa had to pay darn good money for Obama's grandpa to be here...it was WAAAAAY before pell grant was introduced..
:-D :-D :-D

WTF, do you know the meaning of the word??
FTW, if you need to know the meaning, we have a board certified language specialist here...
Me, just an science denying southern (ch)

science denying southern
lool.. yeah.. up north we just call them pigfuckers ;-)

what a coincidence...I was convinced that's what they do up north (H) recreationally, of course..

is that what you used to do when you lived in new york? no wonder you moved down south - closer to your own kind

so McCain's great grandpa had to pay darn good money for Obama's grandpa to be here...it was WAAAAAY before pell grant was introduced..

Obamas paternal grandpa had never been or lived in USA.

oh, actually it was Obama's family who owned slaves, maybe even Michelle's great great grandpa..
According to the research, one of Obama's great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Ky. The same records show that one of Obama's great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two slaves.
An Obama spokesman did not dispute the information and said that the senator's ancestors "are representative of America."
but who didn't own slaves at that time?...it was just as popular as smoking pot now ;-) ...something tells me Mихаил would have owned bunch of them and lived in the south where they used them for sex...;-)

I thought his mothers side waswhite.
wow! this statement is racist..8oI
:-) (v)

Света, no reason...just when color is being brought up into a conversation, it's a popular thing to say...:-) (v) just following the fashion...

then i could be just like out founding fathers.. who owned slaves and smoked cannabis :)

You are the founder...didn't you found something when you are 18? ;-)
but seriously...why I think slavery was unconstitutional to start with is because considering slaves a livestock is a spin...just like considering unborn babies a bunch of cells...both are human beings clearly..

both are clearly human beings? would most people be able to distinguish a human embryo from that of a dolphin or a monkey?

why I think slavery was unconstitutional to start with is because considering slaves a livestock is a spin
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why do you think its a spin? just like you think homosexuals are going against nature, many believed that blacks were sub-human, and as such not entitled to the same rights as whites.

start with --romans ----- you all !!!!! why start it all ;-) you all sinking --all liberals smoke --drinking ..party ... come on !!! and why all of you come from the CCCP --- and become demokrats -- coservative (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) yes liberals for ligal marihyana so????

Marks --jew
Angels-jew
Lenin - jew
komunety --kommunizm -- why ..strart??
liberals and conservatives been at war all the time --from the TRAIN CESAR !!!!!!!!107 a.d till today (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md)

POMPEI IMPER--OFF ROME GET KILL BY THE "KOMUNETY"............ IN 87 A.D !!! START IT ALL

So, those who do not believe that majority of public schools indoctrinate children: tell me, how many teachers at your kids/your school voted for Obama?
In my school -it's 100%. The teachers live and breathe Obama and all existing liberal causes.
The same goes for probably 99% of the rest of the schools in where I live ( with at least 99% of teachers being flaming liberals).
So, when your child is exposed to very one- sided point of view, there is no room for pluralism.
Ira, you are a supporter of pluralism of opinion: how did it happen, that the pluralism of ideology is missing in lots and lots of American schools?

i really don't care who my kids chemistry teachers voted for.
I want them to teach chemistry well.
History is a different issue, of course.
But that's why we have family. And family either indoctrinates or fosters an atmosphere of healthy debate.
I our household we have debated like you wouldn't believe....
And they are welcome.

It works for the families who are involved with the kids and show them both sides of the coin.
I don't care who the chemistry teacher voted for as long as he keep his subject non-partisan.
Unfortunately, even science teachers who are flaming liberals can not resist imposing their liberal views on kids.
History and literature is a very important subject because that is where the critical thinking forms. There is a movement to revise history for public school textbooks. The selection of reading material also is very influenced by the liberal mindset of the selecTORS.

Jesus was a liberal, just like the conservatives are in the true sense of the word. (v)

was a liberal, just like the conservatives are in the true sense of the word
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RELIGIN + POLITIKS === AAAAAA ONLY IN AMERICA !!!!(md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md) (md)

Jesus Christ was a carpenter.... not a rabbi.... (unless he held two jobs)... He had a split personality. As a carpenter he was definitely a democrat, not sure about liberal.....as a Jewish rabbi he must have been very conservative....:-D:-D:-D

He wa a rabbi, (carpenter was his father) if only because he had students.

Carpenters do not have students.

And he was not too conservative... because he established new ways...;-)

Боже! какой бред...
it's so much simplier...
1. the consipracy definitely exists, but it's on the higher level - the Department of Education, government bureaucrats, school administrators, etc..
2. the teachers are partisan because they constantly hear democrats are good, they want to spend more money on schools, protect your union jobs, don't want to put pressure on you and your performance, etc...so who do they "care" about, the students or their own benefits?

I have to confess that it is very hard for me as a teacher of diverse population to stay firm on some my political views.... (v)

2. theteachers are partisan because they constantly hear democrats are good,they want to spend more money on schools, protect your union jobs,don't want to put pressure on you and your performance, etc...so who dothey "care" about, the students or their own benefits?
Wow! This is stupid.