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Виталий Мэв 26.05.2008 12:18

Dima, it's easy to say that our medical system is screwed up...
Do you have any ideas how it can be fixed? I don't. And nobody knows (except Julia, of course)...
So we have to adjust to it...

Юлия Whod 26.05.2008 12:20

Roman wants to close the subject for obvious reason - he has nothing to
say to argue my point, as well as I didn't see anyone of you say
anything to hold water on the question. Vitaliy I don't wish you or
your family ever to go through of what I went through that day.. but
you are simply stupid if you mean what you just said to me.

Юлия Whod 26.05.2008 12:23

so far you all described the system based on Insurance company
advertisement flayer..how many of you actually had to deal with real
health problems personally?

Юлия Whod 26.05.2008 12:29

Mihail, you doing nothing more but running your mouth without making
point - do you know any other word besides Communism? you are
incapable to think and analyze, you work for company which pays for
your insurance, which makes you incompetent on the subject. you are going with the flow without thinking.

Дмитрий Дадк 26.05.2008 12:31

Vitaliy, actually I do have some ideas and already presented some of them to both the NY State and Centers for Medicare Services. Guess what, it took them forever to take a look at that, even when I showed them that systems they had in place were overpaying. NY Medicaid took a year to fix a problem. CMS took a little less.
But, I think I am going honor Roman's request ,
"...Let's close out this topic. Its a waist of time.",
and shut up about it now (sorry, spent too much time dealing with healthcare issues)
"So we have to adjust to it..." --100% agree. There are a lot of options and THANKFULLY we have an ability and responcibility to choose wisely.

Виталий Мэв 26.05.2008 12:39

"Vitaliy I don't wish you or
<br />your family ever to go through of what I went through that day.. but
<br />you are simply stupid if you mean what you just said to me."

That wasn't nice.

Amos 26.05.2008 12:40

Julia it's not that I have nothing to say, it's just that your idea is so out there it doesn't even require a discussion. I am putting this in a same line with UFO's, Area 51, Matza being made out of blood theory, and all the other crazy stuff. I have heard and seen some wild theories about health care, yours is the winner. Thats why I am closing this out.

Юлия Whod 26.05.2008 12:48

roman it's not up to you. if I want to speak out about this who are you
to say "I am closing this out"... just another side of you which shows
your communistic attitude. yet you didn't make 1 (just 1!) point
against universal health care which countries like England, France and
others have - are you calling England a communism country?.. you are
the joke yourself - you making clown out of yourself by attacking me -
calling me names, but yet not making any sense yourself. you said you
are paying $13200/year for insurance just for yourself? are you married
with 3 kids? because if not - that is a ridiculous lie that you paying
that much.

Amos 26.05.2008 12:52

With kids but not 3 and there is a good reason why I pay that much. I have the best plan with all the drugs, most doctors and any service I need for the entire family. It is worth every penny of it.

Дмитрий Дадк 26.05.2008 12:53

Let me make a couple of points.
"Medicare improperly paid about $12.1 billion in fee-for-service claims for fiscal year 2001. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) reports this as an improvement. By 1998, the improper payment rate was cut in half, from a high of 14% when first studied in 1996. Yet in recent years there's been little substantial improvement (see appendix below)."
Shows the ability of the government to manage money.


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