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Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 05:12

Definitions of the term anti-Americanism have been much debated. German newspaper publisher and political scientist Josef Joffesuggests five classic aspects of the phenomenon: reducing Americans tostereotypes; believing the United States to have an irremediably evilnature; ascribing to the U.S. establishment a vast conspiratorial poweraimed at utterly dominating the globe; holding the United Statesresponsible for all the evils in the world; and seeking to limit theinfluence of the United States by destroying it or by cutting oneselfand one's society off from its polluting products and practices.[11] Other advocates of the significance of the term argue that anti-Americanism represents a coherent and dangerous ideological current, comparable to anti-Semitism.

Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 05:13

Anti-Americanism has also been describedas an attempt to frame theconsequences of U.S. policy choices asevidence of a specificallyAmerican moral failure, as opposed to whatmay be unavoidable failuresof a complicated foreign policy that comeswith superpower status.
I believe many people on the left fit the description...so it's far to call them anti-american...

Лина 01.12.2009 05:20

and I believe that you're a misguided bible-thumping hypocrite. isn't there something in that book of yours about not judging others?

Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 05:30

again, it is not pertaing to anyone personally...but it's just a trend and observation from listening and reading a lot of people...and it's from wiki, so not my definition or description
read some more...
********en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Americanism

Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 05:48

I do...and what I posted perfectly decribes people who hold anti-american views or "blame America first" mentality...sorry if some people don't like when others don't appreciate the criticism of some views..

Лина 01.12.2009 05:53

not pertaining to anyone personally, just to "many on the left" - hint hint. typical soviet mentality -anyone who doesn't share your (or your comrades') views is automatically labeled anti American or an enemy of the state.

Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 06:27

hwo about that for the sophisticated people who claim to know and understand -
if a foreign national is constantly saying that America is a bad imperialistic country, American companies are evil, Americans are stupid and ignorant, etc. I think it makes perfect sense to say he doesn't like America much, or call him anti-american...
why would I apply a different standard to an American who thinks along the same lines?

Лина 01.12.2009 06:57

Svetlana keeps forgetting that our founding fathers were the first to criticize the status quo, and gave us the first amendment, thus ensuring that we could continue doing the same without fearing persecution.

Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 06:57

there is a difference between criticism and twisting the facts, use conspiracy theories, lies like Michael Moore does - 9/11 consipary, saying Cuba has better healthcare than US, Afghanistan is the war for oil (not even Iraq, Afghanistan) etc...the guy is flithy rich because of capitalism, yet he made his money pedicting capitalism in a horrible light...yeah, Moore is anti-american in my book...

Светлана Гэмм 01.12.2009 07:05

like I said, critisism is good and healthy...I criticize my husband all the time sometimes, yet love him so much...but I do it in a degrading manner, constantly pointing out his shortcomings (not that he has much :-) ), accuse of his something that he never did, then it's a whole different story...
if I really thought he was so awful, I would not marry him in the first place or divorced him long time ago...:-)


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