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Сергей Вайс 04.11.2010 04:06

My friend,
You cannot possibly assess what I know. You can only assume. You've just disclosed that yourself. One empty statement merits another. Sorry.

Сергей Вайс 04.11.2010 04:08

least of all I am interested in the internet link with some information. I must be dumb, but I din't get this one...

Гера Така 04.11.2010 04:12

I do not get it.
You make an empty miningless sentence and then... ???You did not get that one because (dumb), people get ther education from the books not rumors and stupid references with statistics which can be turned any way around.
Stop preaching here... go and read something miningfull, like US Constituion for example, or history of American revolution, or anything about Founding Farthers of this country... and then may be you will be able to say - scratch all of that. Lets build a better Soviet Union with the "robust" government.
No respect...
Cheers...(D)

Олег Сах 04.11.2010 04:26

I invited Sergey to this group because he is one of a very few people belonging to an Obama supporting minority of Russian speakers who makes sense and stands ground. Gera, you are my friend, but can we please refrain from telling people where to go and what to do?

Сергей Вайсф 04.11.2010 04:53

Олег, спасибо за заступничество. Я ценю Вашу уравновешенность, невзирая на наши с Вами идеологические расхождения. Должен однако заметить, что таких хамов как Гера (извините за резкость к Вашему другу) я уже повидал немало, и значительно больше, чем мне необходимо для нормальной жизни и интересных бесед на ОК. Обычно, когда в таких случаях люди начинают постепенно сползать к колкостям и перестают соблюдать приличия (мы всё-таки говорим о спорных вещах, и у всех хватает темперамента), я тоже могу последовать по этой дороге. Сожалею и признаюсь. В иных же случаях, когда проявления хамства внезапны, необоснованы и совершенно очевидны, я просто прекращаю разговор. По трём причинам: такой разговор НЕ интересен. Ничего нового он мне не даст. У собеседника, прибегающего к площадной брани посреди серьёзного разговора, очевидно больше нет стоящих мыслей. Как и в этом случае.

Khramaya 04.11.2010 05:56

Gera, can you for one provide some facts, numbers and comparisons. For some reason, I strangely miss Sveta in this discussion:-D , she always provided ate last some links and facts instead of just empty rhetoric

Гера Така 04.11.2010 11:23

No facts, no numbers, no statistics... your Russian speaking friend (read him ) was the first who told me what to do. That showed me his cultural level.
Second, I did not say anything about or against Obama. I simply argued against big government. There - he pronounced me "dumb".
Only then I suggested to read some books, which would do him good.
His behavior and ideas - preaching, in principle - tell us what to do, like he knows it. That is my biggest problem with this visitor from another planet.
Cheers... I am not coming back to this page... save your dirty mouth and the rest of your poison.

Олег Сах 05.11.2010 02:32

If you lower taxes and attract business you can switch those non-productive government jobs to private sector benefiting everyone.
Jobs like what? FDIC? FDA? DL? OSHA? Army, Navy, AF? CIA and FBI? Treasury? Social Security and Medicare? You're kidding, right?
No. I'm not kidding, and I was not talking about Federal Agencies, but state agencies. Here is the list New York State agencies. How many of them could be combined into one, and how many of those we can live without? Cut these people salaries, take away their cars, parking spaces, pensions, overtime, vacation and travel money and you can afford to lower taxes and make the state attractive for businesses again. And if we are really smart we can take the newly found money and use them to cut property taxes making areas like Buffalo attractive again, heck, there is enough infrastructure there. Instead of funding Buffalo Fiscal Stability Authority. Also, I completely understand that some of the agencies listed are needed and also understand that taking away so many jobs could create an unemployment issue, but if you make it more attractive to the factory to stay here then outsource, bam! there are jobs galore.

Олег Сах 05.11.2010 02:35

Adirondack Park Agency

Aging, Office for

Agriculture and Markets, Department of

Alcoholic Beverage Control, Division of (State Liquor Authority)

Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Services, Office of

Arts, Council on

Assembly, New York State

Attorney General, Office of

Authority Budget Office

Banking Department

Battery Park City Authority

Bridge Authority, New York State

Budget, Division of

Buffalo Fiscal Stability Authority

Central Pine Barrens Joint Planning and Policy Commission, The

Chief Information Officer, Office of New York State

Children and Families, Council on

Children and Family Services, Office of

City University of New York

Civil Service, Department of

Community Renewal, Ofice of

Олег Сах 05.11.2010 02:35

Consumer Protection Board (En Espanol)

Corcraft Products (Dept. of Correctional Services, Division of Industries)

Correction, Commission of

Correctional Services, Department of

Correctional Services, Division of Industries (Corcraft), Department of

Court Administration, Office of

Criminal Justice Services, Division of

Cyber Security and Critical Infrastructure Coordination, Office of

Developmental Disabilities Planning Council

Dormitory Authority

Education, Department of

Elections, Board of

Emergency Management Office, State (SEMO)

Empire State Development

Employee Assistance Program, NYS

Employee Relations, Governor's Office of

Employment Relations Board, NYS

Energy Research and Development Authority

Environmental Conservation, Department of

Environmental Facilities Corporation

Erie County Fiscal Stability Authority


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