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Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 00:46

Da Misha, ya vot tozhe dumau o 9/11. Kak vse taki byvaet, chto ludi bystro zabyvaut ili prosto im tako bolee udobno i legche zhit'....
Svetlana:) Ne sovsem Vas ponyala "strashnovaten'ko esli Obama viigraet ili strashnovaten'ko eli on ne viigraet"?;)

Виталий Мэв 21.05.2008 00:51

Михаил.. Люди будут голосовать за "Хуссейна" по разным причинам...
Кто-то, как Юлия например, начитавшись ужасов в Интернете (знаешь, есть поговорка - "бумага всё стерпит"? Так вот Интернет стерпит намного больше...;) ) верит в светлое будущее при темном Президенте... Ее тоже можно понять.. Она же в Техасе... От них до далеко...
Кто-то вообще не задумывается.. Для них любой демократ - уже хорошо.
Кто-то просто винит во всех своих проблемах и неудачах республиканцев...
Вспомнилась смешная фраза: "Древние киргизы не знали о существовании евреев, поэтому все происходившие с ними несчастья относили за счёт темных сил природы"..
В Америке есть очень много людей, которые даже не знают, что его зовут Обама ХУССЕЙН Барак...

Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 00:55

Vsyo yasno Svetlana:) Ya ob etom ne raz podumyvala.
Mnodo let nazad, v seredine 80h, ya rabotala v One World Trade Center v NY. Kogda doma leteli kak domino vniz, moe serdtse izlivalos' krov'u. Za domischa, za NY za Ameriku i voobsche za vospominaniya......
Poetomu dlya menya esche bolee vazhno, chto by my imeli pravitel'stvo, kotoroe ne budet susukatsya s etimi svolochami, a dast ponyat' chto USA is still USA a ne tryapka s takim zhe neponyatnim "Presidentom"

Mihail35 21.05.2008 01:01

Ирена, золотые слова! (Y) Хватит быть politicaly correct (ненавижу эту фразу)!!!
Вы читали что сказал Австралийский премьер-министр John Howard?
Почитайте:
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law
were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia ,
as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims
on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies
monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying
about whether we are offending some individual or their
culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
of Australians.&39;This culture has been developed over two centuries
of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men
and women who have sought freedom'

Продолжение следует...

Mihail35 21.05.2008 01:02

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese,
Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .
Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some
Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because
Christian men and women, on Christian principles,
founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as your new home,
because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why..
All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony
and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

Продолжение следует....

Mihail35 21.05.2008 01:03

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE,
and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping
about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our
Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one
other great Australian freedom,


'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force
you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the
country YOU accepted.'


Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves,
American and Canadian citizens will find the
backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
Вот так!....и никакой политкорректности!!! (Y)

Larsen Lovs 21.05.2008 01:04

ja v NY byla davno davno,,, politicheskogo nastroenija ne pochustvovala..
sejchas zivu v 15 minutax ot centra SF, eto byl belyj tixij otlichnyj prigorod,,,
a sejchas,,, izvinite,,,, bojus' vecherom po traily begat'....
ja ne shovinistka,,, no kazetsja stanovljus' eju,,, i ne izza togo choto ne ljublju cvetnyx,,,
a izza togo chto oni sami sebja tak vedut,,,

Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 01:12

Da, Misha Konechno chitala!! (Y) (Y) (Y) Navernoe pridetsya ehat' tuda esli Osama Hussein viigraet....
Svetlana, a posmotrite eshce odin phenomena...... Uvidite skol'ko afro amerikantsev (politically correct;) pobegut za nego golosovat'. Te kotorye voobsche ne znaut the process of voting. Tol'ko potomu-chto brother vybiraut:(((

Михаил Штам 21.05.2008 05:44

Here is very good article about our boy.
Israpaunit:
***********.israpundit.com/2008/?p=1022
Specifically for the "erudites" like Vova - "pundit" - means expert, specialist, analyst

Михаил Штам 21.05.2008 05:48

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King

Barack Obama is indeed being judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. That is why he will go down hard on Election Day should his party have sufficiently bad judgment to make him its nominee

Bill Levinson

Михаил Штам 21.05.2008 05:51

Obama seems to be a smalltime hustler like Jesse Jackson Or Al Sharpton who will be over his head in the big leagues.His message is very narrow in appeal & as long as he plays to an Afro-American audience he will do well.His problem is that the black militant viewpoint is antagonistic & inflammatory to the rest of America.His stance on issues,as well as the stance of the other militant black leaders,is a provocative & Insulting challenge to white America & will be met with non-black resentment & anger.In the long run Obama will cause a lot of problems for the Afro-American community.By the black militant policy of Afro America”Uber Alles” they are stirring up a lot of dormant bias & bigotry which would have been better left sleeping.With bad economic times on the horizon,along with political anxieties,this is a bad time for the black community to start pushing their weight around
(c)

Михаил Штам 21.05.2008 06:20

Obama has, for the past twenty or so years, belonged to a church with a “non-negotiable commitment to Africa” whose pastor has:
(1) Accompanied Louis Farrakhan to Libya to meet with Moammar Khadafy (this before Obama joined the chuch)
(2) Blood libeled the United States by accusing it of creating the AIDS virus
(3) Published a guest column that blood libeled Israel by accusing it of developing an “ethnic bomb” to kill Negroes and Arabs
(4) Called upon God to damn the United States
(5) Suggested strongly that the United States deserved the terrorist attacks of 9/11
(6) Written “state” of Israel, as in “so-called State of Israel”
(7) Published a guest column from a Hamas terrorist named Marzook
Do we need a president who is that dumb that he is able to "not understand" all that in 20 years? Or sufficienlty insincere and ill-minded to lie about his previous knowledge?

Михаил Штам 21.05.2008 06:29

It contradicted the morality my mother had taught me, a morality of subtle distinctions–between individuals of goodwill and those who wished me ill, between active malice and ignorance or indifference. I had a personal stake in that moral framework; I’d discovered that I couldn’t escape it if I tried. And yet perhaps it was a framework that blacks in this country could no longer afford; perhaps it weakened black resolve, encouraged confusion within the ranks. Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.
If nationalism could deliver. As it turned out, questions of effectiveness, and not sentiment, caused most of my quarrels with Rafiq.
–Dreams From My Father, pp. 199-200

Михаил Штам 21.05.2008 07:02

I didn't consider that to be a good poem, just an impression after watching one Oabama's eeting: zombies with misty eyes, aloof Obama in total control of the insane crowd ...
Obamanation chanting
Entertain’em, underdog’em

Yes he can, yes he can!
Change in psyche, change in pockets,

Here we go, here we go
Witty speeches - little glitches

System works, system works
Chanting wildly, smiling kindly

Yes we want, yes we want
Someone mourns, stop him, morons

Just unite, just unite
Hope, soap, waxed rope
\
Yes we can, yes we can!

Виталий Мэв 21.05.2008 11:43

11 сентября 2001 года мой знакомый работал в... У них на этаже был парень-инвалид. Без ноги. Мой знакомый и еще один парень схватили этого инвалида на руки и бежали с ним по лестницам вниз. С 40-какого-то этажа.... Спаслись сами и спасли его....
Эту "пробежку" они никогда не забудут...
Интересно, а достаточно ли для них слова "Хуссейн", чтоб не голодсовать за Обаму?

Виталий Мэв 21.05.2008 11:49

Или моя знакомая.. Она работала на 50-м этаже. Или на 49-м. Или на 53-м... Неважно... Но там.
Пошла в кафетерию налить себе кофе... Утро все-таки... Самолет влетел в здание.... Она в шоке поверулась и побежала вниз....
Вечером она пришла домой.... Поседевшая.. С чашкой кофе в руке....
Интересно, а ее не смутит слово "Хуссейн"?

Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 11:52

Misha (Y) (Y) (Y) Though I wasn't there when it happend, it was part of my life for almost 5 years and you know, when I saw building going down, my heart was cut in pieces. I couldn't breeth, sleep and was in depression for a long time. Though I love NY very much, I cannot bear the thought that if I see Manhattan and there are no buildings, how I will react.
And this is all because of Husseins, Osamas, Mohammeds....:( :'( :'(

Vladimir Tovk 21.05.2008 11:54

all right! 911 talk ! how exactly is that related to Obama or anything else? (FYI I worked on 98th North Tower 10 min late to work ; so plaase do not wrap yourself in the flag and tell me about 911 )

Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 11:56

In the news today;)
Former New York City Mayor Edward Koch, one of the country’s most prominent Democrats, says he may cross over and back Republican Sen. John McCain for president.

In an exclusive Newsmax interview, Koch says McCain “has no equal” when it comes to opposing Islamic terrorism. Though Koch says he disagrees with most of McCain’s positions on domestic issues, he could support him because of his strong national security credentials.

Koch carries significant weight with many Jewish Democrats in New York and across the country. He also has a history of playing the maverick and crossing party lines.

Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 11:57

He has backed several New York Republicans, including Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for New York City mayor, Al D'Amato for the U.S. Senate, and George Pataki for New York governor. In 2004 he endorsed his first Republican for president, George W. Bush. Koch actively campaigned in several states, including Florida and Ohio.

Bush won both states.

Koch, a regular Newsmax pundit, also says in his i

Vladimir Tovk 21.05.2008 12:27

Vitaliy I am going to vote for Obama because he does not propose nonsense .18 c tax "holiday" (as one of the examples) Can you list any POLICY for McCain?

Ирэна Как 21.05.2008 15:05

BTW, Osama B L also doesn't propose tax holiday. Would it make him a good choice?

Yeah, the best!!! (N) (N)

Михаил Штам 22.05.2008 10:51

Over 100 messages were deleted
Ogo, neuzhto stol'ko musora? (md)
Nadeyus', rebyonka s gryaznoj vodoj ne vyplesnul

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 11:31

800$ - Ученики 6 класса питерской школы номер 2 скинулись и купили 15 самолетов и 50 танков для Замбии, в ответ на это ученики 6 класса школы номер 1 купили столько же для Танзании. Не смотря ни на что, войнушка все равно остается любимой игрой детей!
1000$ - Канада становится самым крупным субъектом РФ. Якутия, чтобы вернуть утерянный статус, покупает Бразилию и Ав стралию, на сдачу получает Монголию.

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 11:32

ja ne dumaju chto oshiblas' forumom

Что будет, если нефть будет стоить:
200$ - все клубы английской премьер-лиги принадлежат российским олигархам 300$ - ближайшие 10 Олимпийских Игр решено провести в Сочи (как летних, так и зимних)
400$ - Япония хочет войти в состав Курильских островов 500$ - Русский мат становится официальным языком ООН (по личной просьбе воронежских пацанов)
600$ - самый популярный подарок для первоклассника Мерседес с личным водителем для поездок в школу.
700$ - Церемония вручения Оскара переносят на два дня ради проведения в театре Коdаk утренника младшей группы Вологодского детского сада номер 3.

Ирэна Как 22.05.2008 11:42

Eugene, shame on Soros an anti-semite Jew:((
Very sad.... I've seen this letter before and have forwarded to others. It is unfortunately all true:((
Obama is a favorite in the terrorist and communist circles. Though he doesn't want to admit it, they love him!!!! They have a good reason not to..... 8oI

Виталий Мэв 22.05.2008 12:23

Ребята, может лучше о женщинах? Или чем-нибудь померяемся? ;)
А то, действительно, уже не смешно...
В конце концов каждый из нас знает за кого он будет голосовать, а я, Ирена, Михаил, Михаил, Роман и Евгений еще и знаем кто будет Президентом. ;)

Amos 22.05.2008 12:26

Soglashus s Vitaliem, davayte luchshe o zhenshinah ili eshe shto ne bud interesnoe.

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 12:28

nu eper' v anekdotax my budem govorit' o politike,,,,
a v rubrike politika o zenschinax:-)
kazetsja sejchas vse vstalo :-D na svoi mesta

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 12:34

:-D :-D :-D :-D
nu prosto ljbov' vsegda ljuchse chem ljubove k politike,,,,ja za

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 12:39

Vy tol,ko vdumaites' v nazvanie temy:

Hillary. Obama, or McCain and why?
Vote here:
Kto schastlivchik? :-D

Славик Саж 22.05.2008 12:42

So who would you rather make out with Hillary Obama or McCain.
I think I speak for many when I say why is not important. We can vomit without those details
(md)

Виталий Мэв 22.05.2008 12:46

"McCain is not my type. A na Hillary vodki ne xvatit. Stolko ne vip'u. "
Рома, что самое смешное, так это то, что даже здесь Обаму не рассматривают как реального кандидата. :):):):)

Amos 22.05.2008 12:47

Vitaly, Obama is not an option. I am a nice Jewish boy from Brooklyn, New York image someone name Hussein Obama. Pozor na vsu meshpuxu.

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 12:49

povtorjajuslova vitalija : даже здесь Обаму не рассматривают как реального кандидата. KOGO ze rassmatrivat'?

Виталий Мэв 22.05.2008 12:51

Roman, trust me.... I wouldn't bring him to my parents either! (v) :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Larsen Lovs 22.05.2008 12:51

povtorju escho raz....Vy tol,ko vdumaites' v nazvanie temy:

Hillary . Obama, or McCain? and why?

Vote here:
Kto schastlivchik?

Михаил Штам 22.05.2008 12:51

Ne vse takie schepetil'nye . Von Aksel'rod - pochti meshpuha - da i familiya, kak u moego deda po materi - a ved' poschyol v usluzhenie ...

Виталий Мэв 22.05.2008 12:54

И тут, ввиду отсутствия демократов, все мужчины радостно накинулись на Светлану! :):):):

Михаил Штам 22.05.2008 12:54

Kak my sinhronno - Sveta pol'zuetsya uspehom, nesomnenno. Odno slovo - Virgin :-D


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