i think the consensus among most liberals is that Obama is good because he's not Bush :)

As "Obama" said in SNL's skit about his winning the Nobel Peace Prize "I won it for not being George W Bush. Which is surprising because I only have not been George W Bush for 9 month" :-D

Gera, good luck with that...I've been asking this question forever...
most recentely i asked Line if she was pleased with Obama's actions and she replied that he was on the right track...SO it seems that he hasn't arrived anywhere, still in transit towards our brighter future

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SNL's skit

so, i asked one of my local democrats and his things of what Obama has done
1) ordered to stop torture
2) passed stimulus
3) changed US image in the world

I got one more: he turned attention from an unnecessary war (Iraq) to a justifiable one (Afghanistan).

Alexey, yeah.. there so far he's just following Bushes blueprint... i mean he has not changed direction at all..

4. reversed restrictions on stem cell research
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did anybody really expect him to fix the economy and reform health care in 9 months?

Oleg, yeah we had an argument on this.. i asked if not doing something qualifies as doing something... still debating..

Mike, just to enhance your point:
6. Instituted "create or save millions of jobs" concept.

like i was planning on going to the store and picking up a pair of shoes. but now i have changed my mind..
do i get a credit for not going to the store (as doing something?)

do i get a credit for not going to the store (as doing something?)

If you are short of money... You got a credit!

do i get a credit for not going to the store (as doing something?)

If you are short of money... You got a credit!

how about youwanted tobeat the crap out ofyour neighbor and then decided against it... and insteadmade an effortto get to know him better... you really haven't accomplished anything yet, but I wouldn't call it nothing either...

like i was planning on going to the store and picking up a pair of shoes. but now i have changed my mind..
do i get a credit for not going to the store (as doing something?)

You should be charged for not helping American economy at the time of crisis by spending your money :-)

If government would let AIG to colapse, a lot of people would be laid off. So, by giving a hand to the company the government saved jobs.

but if AIG collapsed other ( solvent ) insurance companies would get their business and hire people.
It's the biggest scam that government pull - saving companies does not save jobs, just saves the executive cronies who donated money to election.
Jobs will always be there as long as there is a need for a service.

Is that right, Mike? Didn't you claim that if AIG collapsed then the bunch of companies that AIG insured would have also collapsed? And so on? Other insurance companies had no (1) contracts (2) money to cover for AIG. AFAIK.

No, Mike. out of 100 people maybe 10 would find jobs in another insurance companies.

Svetlana, if you follow that logic - 90% of AIG provided services are totally useless.. is that correct? Or The efficiency of AIG employees is 10%?

Alexey, never made that commend about AIG, if you lose your insurance u don't collapse :). People who wrote swaps to AIG would take bigs hits ( mostly financial companies ) and maybe some of them would even collapse..
But is that a bad thing? People who took major risks don't deserve to be bailed out.

People from Lehman Bros. are still unemployed.
About 7 years ago Lehman outsoursed their datacenter to AIG Datacenter. DidAIG hire everybody who was laid off? No.
They hired 20. 5 years later Lehman moved their production from AIG to IBM. How many people IBM took to support Lehman - 5.

some Lehman people are unemployed, but a lot are employed.. everyone I know who used to work for Lehman found a job.. in fact i had 2 different recruiters calling me within a month trying to get me into what used to be Lehman.

Actually, AIG, as insurance company, can not go bankrupt. It would be taken over by NY State Department of Insurance (or something like this). Itfollows the same rules as banks.

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this is why i love factcheck..
agrees with my general line of thoughts that we have thieves and liers on both sides of the isle.

That can help keep the H1N1 away.
Holy water gargle a day keeps the swine flu away.;-)

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This is another terrific reading from today's WSJ.
Не проходите мимо!
"Obama and the Liberal Paradigm".
The author gives a very astute overview of the thinking of modern days Democrats.

did you hear what's going in Texas? :-O (hu)
Twelve people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting spree at aTexas military baseby what officials believe was possibly carried out by an Army officer.
Thesuspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. He waskilled and two other suspects have been apprehended, Lt. Robert W. Conesaid.

Almost no road in Michigan (accept for M-59, right now, although we will see...) is being built or re-built... nobody is interested to employ the technology to build the road for good.
They are being "fixed", which means they will be in bad condition soon again... and will have to be fixed again. This is the way the "leadership" in the capital makes sure they something to show for their efforts of "functioning" for the tax payers welfare and keep the employment.
The good news is - this year I do not see illegal Mexicans working on the roads...
Cheers...(F)

This is from an article in the St. Petersburg Times Newspaper
The Business Section asked readers for ideas on "How Would You Fix the Economy?"
I think this guy nailed it!
Dear Mr. President,
Please find below my suggestion for fixing America 's economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to companies that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.
You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan:
There are about 40 million people over 50 in the workforce.
Pay them $1 million a piece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:
1) They MUST retire. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.
2) They MUST buy a new American CAR. Forty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed.
3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed.
It can't get any easier than that!
P.S. If more money is needed, have all members in Congress and their constituents pay their taxes...

uhm.. 40mln * 1mln = $40trillion...
a bit too much money to print even to Obama :)

Hasan (the psychiatrist who killed twelve soldiers in Fort Hood, Tx) was on Homeland Security advisory task force aimed at Obama transition team

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На промежуточных выборах в Конгресс США в 2010 году за республиканцевготовы проголосовать больше избирателей, чем за демократов, сообщаетисследовательская компания Gallup. Gallup начала составлять рейтинги к выборам-2010, и в тот моментдемократы заметно опережали республиканцев: 50 и 44 процента голосовсоответственно. В ноябре доля потенциальных республиканских голосовсоставила 48 процентов, а демократических - 44 процента. На данныймомент у республиканцы вызывают значительно большую симпатию унезависимых избирателей - 52 процента против 30 у демократов. В июле зареспубликанцев собирались голосовать 43 процента независимых, а задемократов - 42 процента. ********lenta.ru/news/2009/11/12/lead/

Обаманоид поклонился японскому императору. До этого он кланялся саудовскому королю. Позор! Ни один американский президент НИКОГДА НИКОМУ не кланялся.

Весьма позорный президентик.
Одно удивляет -как такой супер-нарциссист может кому-то кланяться? Как-то не укладывается в психологический профиль. :-S Ау, здесь есть психологи?

Только что посмотрела видео, как Обама кланяется японскому императору. Я думаю, что всё же это просто дань японской культуре. Они все там кланяются... не совсем тоже самое, что поклон Саудовскому принцу.

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Hey, look here. How the rest of the world greets Japanese Emperor.
Looks like Obama is overreaching:-D

Ни один американский президент НИКОГДА НИКОМУ не кланялся.
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Одно удивляет -как такой супер-нарциссист может кому-то кланяться? Как-то не укладывается в психологический профиль
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Maria, I think you're just projecting...

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I posted the wrong link in the other post