Progressives ? There is a word I have heard in reference to Der'mo'crats in a while. What are they progressing to ? Poverty ? High Taxes ? Lack of corporate covernance ? Freindly negotiations with enemies and terrorists ? Or Communism ?

Exactly my point. To me - the left are merely outdated, immoral, misathropic obscuratists. That is why I use the terms they stole in quotation marks: "progressives", "liberals"

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