Is this a serious discussion and push for a robust Gov't overdog?
Yes, the key word here is ROBUST, meaning not as much "big" as "tough". Don't we know enough about it? No, you don't. You only know about it what you have heard from the most politically biased sources. The big machine never works... Wanna bet? Take a look at this:
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