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post #181 Старый 19.05.2008, 01:38
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Vladimir, no one is arguing that there is in fact Global Warming. The question is what percentage is this a human factor and what percentage is a natural event that will happen no matter what, and the answer appears to be that we contribute only about 5-10% the rest is totally natural.
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post #182 Старый 19.05.2008, 01:39
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Роман to claim that we found WMD in Iraq is silly. No governmental agency ever did it. You might consider other BALANCED surces other the ultra right talking points. 62% of Americans believe the war was a mistake. Good things in Iraq ... what we opened another school there? What is the probability that it will not be bombed tomorrow. If things are peachy why stay there?
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post #183 Старый 19.05.2008, 01:49
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Vladimir, no one is claiming WMD were found. However, no one is arguing that they sought them, and no one in their right mind can argue that the world is not better off without Sadam. As far as 62% of Americans, check out Quinipack University, they conducted a poll, they asked 3 questions at random, 1. Who was president during Heroshima and Nagasaki, 2. Who was president during Cuban missle crisis, 3. did you see a photo of Britney Spears vagina. Guess what that 62% you are talking about only 15% answered first one correct, 10% the second one, but Britney 83%. Do you really want to use these people as your source ? Secondly, your average American wants to live in a perfect fairytale world where everyone is kissing and smiling, it is impossible. The truth is we need, terrorism, we need drug problems, we need foreign oil dependence because our economy is tructured to deal with it and without it, our entire system will collapse.
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post #184 Старый 19.05.2008, 01:52
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во первых Вилалий дает ссылки на глобальное охлаждение - silly. a вовторых процент выше. IPCC gives 90% chance that it is human driven. I guess it is not 100% .. but it is pretty high. So is there a chance that it is not because of the homo sapiens .. yes, but with 90% certainty I would rather take action on it. Also considering that it is better for economy, national security (oil), environment , less pollution and disease ....
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post #185 Старый 19.05.2008, 01:54
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Again Vladimir, fairytale world. We all want to live in the world that you want, with no Global Warming issues, no oil dependence, no war. Its all wonderful, but if you are about the age of 6, you know perfectly well that it is impossible.
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post #186 Старый 19.05.2008, 02:45
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so you question just this poll or other as well? CNN poll showed 68% ppose US war in Iraq. USA Today Gallup 63% say it was a mistake to send troops to Iraq. ABCNews/ Washington post 64% not worth it. CBS News not worth it 64% etc etc. on the other hand several month after the war Fox viewers were the most ignorant on the topic of WMD 80% though we found them.
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post #187 Старый 19.05.2008, 02:54
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Роман , it is not fairytale world. Technology is already there it
is just a matter to make it more competitive with oil, but at the
price of 125$ a barrel it s already viable. The problem is no one
openly admits that this war is for oil control. Here and there
Greenspan, McCain drop sentences and many think that this is the case,
but if there were an open discussion on it and we would have accounted
the cost of wars in ME then the price of oil would not be that sweet. McKenzie study showed conservation is economically beneficial. Our energy policy actually slows innovation. It is easy to ridicule it as magic wang , but noone says anything will happen overnight - it is a matter of policy and priority.
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post #188 Старый 19.05.2008, 02:55
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well CNN and ABC we do not even need to consider, these are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Democrtic National committee. Did we find WMD, well we found only one stock pile of mustard gas. The reason they are not considered is because these are not WMD's we were searching for. But you still did not answer my question, is the world better off now ? Secondly, I already told you who they are polling.
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post #189 Старый 19.05.2008, 02:58
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No its a matter of millions of people employed but KeySpan, Shell, exxonMobil, etc. who will be in line for unemployment and this war was oil controlled, then why aren't we getting any of it ? There is a lot more to it.
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post #190 Старый 19.05.2008, 02:59
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We have enough technology to create a global utopia right now. The big question is, do we want to put it to work ?
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