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post #11 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:24
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this is going to be another argument that goes nowhere, but i will bite
1) There is a lot more to environmentalism then GW. Remember shrinking ozon layer? Remember acid rains that we had before, has been practically solved in US with the clean air act.
2) I like the fact that i can run in Central park and along West side path in NYC without suffocating from emission fumes, like in Moscow or Buenos Aires or most other large cities where they don't have good emission standards
3) I enjoy going to the lakes and being able to swim and fish in them due to the environmental standards that we have
4) I like snorkeling in coral riffs that are protected by the environmentalists
Now, on GW, there seems to be little doubt that we do have some affect on global weather patterns. I don't buy into the Al Gore propaganda much more then i buy into the loony statements made in this topic.
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post #12 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:27
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resembling totalitarian concentration camp

this part is NOT debatable, it's loony, crazy, insane, i don't know what the correct medical term is for it. I mean you have to be on some hard drugs to come up with this idiocy.
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post #13 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:30
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Because they believe in it, in the same irrational way that you believe in god. They believe that the world is getting hotter and that it will cause cataclysmic events should we allow this to happen.
this is my opinion of course.
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post #14 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:38
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1. what is percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere?
2. the amount of CO2 was higher during WWII and T was lower..
3. and what about the Medieval Warm period when the Earth was even warmer, and the climate scientists have been supressing that fact..
btw, I am very rational in my believe in God, because if you don't, you start irrationally believe in GW and its effects or charts...;-)
haven't we already been through global cooling, ice age, etc. in the 70s?
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post #15 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:44
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this part is NOT debatable, it's loony, crazy, insane, i don't knowwhat the correct medical term is for it. I mean you have to be on somehard drugs to come up with this idiocy.
I mean, on behalf of or for the sake of the atheists, I am asking you, please stay civil...
if they will tax and control
-the food you eat
-the cars you drive
-the millage you are allowed to drive
-businesses you can open/grow/use
-th amount of electricity you can use
-amount of water
-some are advocating the population control (tell you how many kids you can have)..
how would you call this kind of society? *-)
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post #16 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:45
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i know all the arguments for an against the GW, i don't know if we are causing it or not..
it seems like there is a lot of good and bad science on both sides of the debate.
i mean we clearly exhaust a lot of CO2, and at the increasing rate, CO2 clearly goes up into atmosphere, CO2 is clearly a greenhouse gas.
Those things are facts not subject to interpretation.
everything else is.
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post #17 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:46
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oh my god, they are already taxing every thing thing we consume.. we must be living in a concentration camp.. help help!!!
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post #18 Старый 19.12.2009, 03:51
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well, who said I (we) like it or agree with(being taxed)? and you see no problem in continuing in the same fashion for the sake of something that has not been completely proven? I mean there has to be a line where we stop, and a good reason besides the hysteria and political agenda..
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post #19 Старый 19.12.2009, 04:19
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no, but we are cautious of our freedoms...and what it may lead to..
and btw, if libs and Al Gore truly believe in GW, how come they are not living the lives they are advocating and live in luxury homes, fly private planes, etc..
there are good solutions, that would protect the environment, won't ruin the economy, won't cost trillions of dollars, but libs don't want to hear about it..
********tinyurl.com/y8pgeku
the Senate testimony by a scientist..Europeans' C&T has failed, they have not been able to reduce their CO2..why our dems don't listen?
and I don't anyone to pay for my believes, they do..
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post #20 Старый 19.12.2009, 04:26
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i am not sure what you are arguing with?
You want to convince me that Gore wants to put everyone in a concentration camp?
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