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post #241 Старый 04.12.2009, 14:55
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Did anybody read this article by Norman Podhoretz?

Why Jew are liberals?
It's an interesting perspective...
All the conservative jews here ( on Ondnoklassniki) is the anomaly to the American society, which is actually an anomaly if you consider the principles of conservatism.
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post #242 Старый 05.12.2009, 02:16
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the author is obviously ignorant of Jewish history...
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post #243 Старый 05.12.2009, 02:17
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"What needs to be stressed here is the extent to which the exile communities were—because they had to be—little welfare states or welfare societies, whose members, for all their quarrels, were deeply committed to one another. The range of communal provision was very wide (though different in different times and places). It included distributions of food and clothing, care for orphans and widows, dowries, hostels for travelers, ransom for captives (a major claim on communal funds over many centuries), public physicians and midwives, and, perhaps above all, schools. In the l430s, a synod of Spanish rabbis proposed the creation of something close to a full-scale compulsory public school system. What justice meant to those rabbis is perhaps best revealed here, concretely, in their proposal to transfer funds from rich to poor school districts, an issue that continues to be argued about today"
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post #244 Старый 05.12.2009, 02:19
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" But then the newly emancipated Jews discovered that they could remain free only in a state where emancipation was general; they could only make their way in a society where careers are open to talents, discrimination is barred, private life and personal choice are protected, and religion is not “established.” In other words, Jews were only able to remain free and make their way in a liberal state and a liberal society. Otherwise, they would be emancipated from orthodoxy only to be victimized by anti-Semitism, which must often have seemed to be the orthodoxy of the gentiles. Jews are liberals, then, from self-interest, but to say this is not to denigrate our commitment. Self-interest is a powerful root from which all sorts of idealisms can grow."
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post #245 Старый 05.12.2009, 03:43
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There is no logic in Jew reasoning. Anyone who is color AND race blind knows that.

And if Oleg decides to delve deeper into this dynamic, meaningful, and beneficial discussion he will disappoint those whose opinions he actually values.

And I used my ass & tampon joke today in reference to my principal. People LOVED it. My Jew humoy woyks!!!
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post #246 Старый 05.12.2009, 04:01
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Well, I already typed this, by the time Olga posted, so as my last communique concerning the topic:
a) I was talking about immigrants from former FSU, calling this entire group "Jews", just like Ira is doing, is kind of strange. Especially given diversity of this particular group where we are now, starting with Ms. Savchenko herself and ending with Murat, for example.
b) I have never mentioned any dislike for social programs. But who needs to read my posts, when you can "read between the lines"?
c) I stated that working, tax-paying, younger generations of those elderly have returned the money spent on their parents back to USA, in forms of various contributions: taxes, jobs created, personal wealth acquired. Very simple formula, ты мне, я тебе.
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post #247 Старый 05.12.2009, 04:02
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d) African Americans' case, when people who are 12 generations removed are feeling entitled for retributions for the pain and suffering of their distant predecessors is so far from my case that I don't even want to honor it with explanation. Just think, simple case, "you gave me $, I gave you $ back", and pseudo-historical mumbo-jumbo of "historical debt" which could be echoed by Russians vs Mongols, Jews vs Egyptians, Gypsies vs The World, etc...
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post #248 Старый 05.12.2009, 04:18
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Sometimes I think that famous Гаврила is much closer to Сахно family then just an employee.
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post #249 Старый 05.12.2009, 04:46
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Nope Ira, I am still here, just way to busy at work
But thanks for noticing
;-) (v)
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post #250 Старый 10.12.2009, 16:15
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In the end, perseverance, the ability to absorb defeat withoutfalling into defeatism, is the key to Palin’s character. It’s whatmakes her run in both senses of the word and it is no accident that thephysical act of running is throughout the book the metaphor for joy andreal life. Her handlers in the McCain campaign wouldn’t let her run (amistake, I think, even at the level of photo-op), no doubt because theyfeared another opportunity to go “off script,” to “go rogue.”
But run she does (and falls, but so what?), and when it is all overand she has lost the vice presidency and resigned the governorship, shegoes on a long run and rehearses in her mind the eventful year she haschronicled. And as she runs, she achieves equilibrium and hope: “We’vebeen through amazing days, and really, there wasn’t one thing tocomplain about. I feel such freedom, such hope, such thankfulness forour country, a place where nothing is hopeless.”
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