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post #281 Старый 01.04.2010, 02:46
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BTW, not all militias identify themselves as anti-govmt, nazis, etc. Some declare that their goal is supporting local law enforcement weakened by budget cuts.
After all, we have volunteer firefighters, guardian angels (unarmed) paroling street in troubled neighborhoods, maybe militias of local pre-screened community members is a next new thing.
I personally don't see a need for armed citizens getting together, but then again, I don't live on Mexico - Arizona border where illegals and drug smugglers are robing and killing local farmers.
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post #282 Старый 01.04.2010, 03:31
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That could be true -- I'll look at that radio station's website to see where they got the numbers and how they classify it.
My only problem with Fox, btw, is not the information that they provide, but the inflammatory tone of it -- I watch enough Fox News to see it.
When Bush was the President, Fox defended govt decisions, now it is against the govt -- so it is logically to assume that it contributes to the rise of political extremism from various militias. IMHO.
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post #283 Старый 01.04.2010, 04:09
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Aleksey, why single out FOX? MSNBC is exactly the same type of reporting on the other side...
Btw, Obama allowed off-shore drilling today..
drill, baby, drill lol
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post #284 Старый 01.04.2010, 04:28
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Oh, paleeeese,
MSNBC is the outlet of leftist hate. The country rejected that channel, nobody watches it except the most liberal members of society ( which is, thank God , a small minority).
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post #285 Старый 01.04.2010, 04:35
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Arrests of militia members in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana: ********tinyurl.com/ydtcsvl
Is the raise in political extreimsm the result of Fox News fueling the rage? Is this what US Conservatives want?
Don't bait that hook.:-)
It's just a convenient little news for the left. There are always some radicals on the fringes. But this tiny group ( more like one crazy family with several members) is no threat to our society.
The real threat is the idealogs in radical militant islamist groups who are plotting against all of us constantly, in America, and their numbers are several orders bigger than these "Christian" extremists ( there is no such a thing, BTW, unless you love Jesus so much that you quit everything Earthly and go the the monastery).
And the doulbe standard is that the media is afraid to offend the radical muslims, but is so brave to yell about extremist "chirstians".
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post #286 Старый 01.04.2010, 05:45
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well, I think the fake concern about extremism and violence expressed by the left outlets and commentators is an attempt to dismiss and silence the critics of the current administration.. "I don't have a problem with information on Fox, just think it's inflammatory" - would be an example of that.. what is exactly inflammatory?.. yes, people are concerned with what the government is doing.. yes, people are VERY concerned.. did they call for violence? no, they called for actions (through civil chanels - contacting your elective official, etc.. there will always be wackos who misconstrue any message.. but for people who are always silent when their opponents are insulted in an extreme way, often themselves smear opponents, rificule their family members, etc.. it's disingenuous to worry about it now, to say the least..
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post #287 Старый 01.04.2010, 05:46
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btw, the speaker of the House claimed people protesting at townhallmeetings wore swastika..again, an attempt to smear their opposition, inthis case just regular voters..and btw, what's the left wing militia?? if the right wing militia areanti-government, does it mean the gangs in LA are the left wing..Iheard they are for big-government, income redistribution,government-run healthcare..(ch)
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post #288 Старый 01.04.2010, 05:58
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oh, I forgot - I think the left-wing gangs are against death penalty and tougher prison terms for violent crimes.. (ch)
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post #289 Старый 01.04.2010, 05:59
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Good point about the gangs. They are noble redistributors of wealth.:-)
Very important point I want to make is that when the protests are organized by the conservatives, the organizers ALWAYS request that the participants be polite and civil. Because we do not want to be compromised by some crazos who can't control themselves. And considering the amount of people in the Tea Parties in the last year ( millions!!!), the participants are doing a darn good job !
But you can't say that of the militant leftists who are small in numbers, but so aggressive and vile that they stink a mile away. They are just deranged and dangerous elements of the society.
Those who shout down conservative speakers at the universities or on book tours, who call a president of US a Hitler , Nazi, and call for his death, etc. Disgusting(N)
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post #290 Старый 01.04.2010, 06:01
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I actually listened to the radio segment Alexei is referring to also, it was on NPR. They interviewed a guy from Southern Poverty Law Center, an expert on domestic terror. So I can look some facts on their site, too when I have a minute.
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