Oleg, it occured to me that the Dems wouldn't want to mess with Sicilians and how they got where they are... (I'm from Jersey myself) :-D so are wise to stick to the Dominicans for now, if the Domslikethe projects and welfare so thoughtfully doled out by the Dems...))

хоть смейся, хоть плачь:'(:-)

Maria, great definitions,(Y) if only....

Валентина,на мой взгляд здесь все очевидно.Мексиканцы и при Буше переползали на брюхе через границу,а что тогда говорить о нынешней администрации.У меня есть надежда,как и у многих здравомыслящих людей,что через три года произойдет республиканская революция,как произошла в свое время во времена Картера.И на смену Обаме придет достойный лидер на долгие годы.Очень хочется в это верить.И тогда может всей этой шушере перекроют кислород.

BTW, one thing just occurred to me: my example with public sector jobs does not work the other way around. I know lots of people who hold public sector jobs and are pretty conservative. It's just that I don't know any liberals earning their bread by free market, old fashioned, supply & demand means.

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There is a section of private sector where liberals found a niche -green businesses ( huge subsidies from uncle Barak)

Oleg, how about George Soros? He is an ultimate socialist, but made his big bucks through the evil Capitalism.

Boris, I knew you will be an interesting addition when I was accepting you in the group. Military contractors and farm subsidy recipients might be Republicans or RINOs, whatever. I am sure that deep down they are pro-big government whores, or, they have to be real hypocrites.

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Maria, from Wikipedia:
He has stated that his intent was to earn enough money on Wall Street to support himself as an author and philosopher — he calculated that $500,000 after five years would be possible and adequate.
Сорос никогда не открывал свой бизнес, не зависел от рынка сбыта или от рынка рабочей силы. Он гениальный финансист, который делал деньги для того чтобы хватило на жизнь философа и писателя. Благодаря своему гению он сделал больше денег чем планировал, но делание денег не было его целью.

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BTW, one thing just occurred to me: my example with public sector jobs does not work the other way around. I know lots of people who hold public sector jobs and are pretty conservative.
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Your example doesn't work. Period. I have never held a public sector job...but I believe at least some of your family's benefits are provided by the government.

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It's just that I don't know any liberals earning their bread by free market, old fashioned, supply & demand means.
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you really need to get out more.

And something else I've recently learned that I believe applies to your family, Oleg: "despite investment collapses worldwide, active and retired participants in <FONT color=#006699>New York
City's teacher pension system draw an exceptional taxpayer-guaranteed return of 8.25 percent annually on savings funds known as 403(b) plans. "

Wow, I sure wish the taxpayers would guarantee all of my investments... People who live in glass houses should really refrain from throwing stones.

Where did you find any contradictions? My wife works harder than most of the people who make over $200K, if she gets good benefits it's only a fair reimbursement for an actual service that she provides: teaching children.

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