Марат, а может так оно и есть. На демагогии далеко не уедешь. Охмурил население однин раз, но чары уже прошли... Наверное Обама начал что-то прокумекивать, что народ в Америке -то всё-таки ближе к правой стороне, чем к левой.

LOL you people are SO funny :-D :-D
instead of discussing issues you chose to discuss me..
i am flattered, of course i do have a have a heavily politicized degree in mathematics from CU Boulder.

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discussing you is much more productive ........and fun..(ch)
issues -depressing....look at the headline...(tr)
House approves $290 billion increase in debt limit...
Obama signs $1.1 trillion spending bill...
House approves $155 billion for 'jobs'...
NBCNEWSWSJ POLL: Americans Souring on Democrats...
Congress Travels More, Public Pays...

that does not change the analysis of a letter, does it?
if anything the letter only shows how people are affected by media ( in this case FoxNews commentators ) spin on events/words.

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the letter is fine..the "analysis" is twisted..he did say all these things and more importantly it IS his perception of America...and his wife's..
or one more he even removed his Flag pin after 9/11...what kind of statement is it? but you don't have problems with him doing all that, then why even worry?

i have no problem with Obama admitting that we (USA) have made mistakes in the past..
( this was the point of the misquoted statements from Obama speeches )
i also have no problem admitting I have made mistakes in the past
now you can go ahead and call me a radical again

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i also have no problem admitting I have made mistakes in the past
totally agree ;-) bravo (Y)
well, of course we have made mistakes..and even when you do, does it mean you are arrogant, mean-spirited, or you have nothing to be proud of??
and about him talking about not living up to our ideals - do YOU share his view on torture and agree that US has participated in it??
just answer the question (ch)

you can be proud of some things, yet admit mistakes in others, those things are not mutually exclusive.
do i think that US participated in torture? i don't think it's a matter of opinions, it's a matter of fact.

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I better stop now...your statements scare me everyday more and more...really?? torture?? I don't think you know what it is..but whatever, you just love to be in disagreement..(v)

lol, is waterboarding not torture?
i mean we can invent new definitions "enhanced interrogation techniques, stress and duress, etc"

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