Btw, if you suspect there is fraud on part of anyone, you can take them to jail, it's called citizens action.. you would even get 25% of the recovered funds.

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"A report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations says UBS(UBS_), Lehman Brothers Holdings, Citigroup(C_), Bear Stearns, Morgan Stanley(MS_), Goldman Sachs(GS_), JPMorgan Chase(JPM_) and Nomura Holdings all asked the rating agencies to loosen standards, even though S&P and Moody's knew of the risky nature of the bonds.
"The report also states that "the most immediate cause of the financial crisis," was the July 2007 downgrade by Moody's and Standard & Poor's of several mortgage-backed securities. At that time, 90 percent of the triple A rated mortgage-backed securities issued in 2006 and 2007 were downgraded to junk status. "

these banks along with credit agencies, and whoever else perpetrated a fraud of monumental proportions, which many believe led to the financial meltdown, and not only didn't they pay for it, they walked away with millions.
" 90 percent of the triple A rated mortgage-backed securities issued in 2006 and 2007 were downgraded to junk status."

ok, asked to loosen standard..
а че если бы попросили спрыгнуть с 10ого этажа? S&P and Moody's make their decisions independently of what they are asked to do, and if investors were defrauded by the rating agencies they have rememdies to sue them..

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did you learn to differentiate a move from reality? - did you learn that if a person does not agree with you might NOT be an idiot? ... или твое мнение является единственно верным? ... как дедушка Ленин ... он тоже считал всех вокруг идиотами и политическими проститутками ...
как говорится: Переубедить вас мне не удастся, поэтому сразу перейду к оскорблениям. (N)

jailing CEOs of bankrupt companies is stupid.. but the moment u stop making stupid statements i will stop calling u stupid.. deal?

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Человек, который почувствовал ветер перемен, должен построить не щит от ветра, а ветряную мельницу

You don't have the right to call ANYONE stupid! ... not me, not anybody else! ... it is RUDE! ... what's happened to "respectfully disagree"? ... you didn't learn how to be polite ... (N) (N) (N)
did you learn that science fiction and documentary - 2 different genres of movies? ... no, you didn't ... You may have an education, but you don't have a class ...
I respect your opinion, but you don't respect mine ... therefore - NO DEALS, you, ignorant bastard! ...

Ребята, у вас здесь конечно неплохой междусобойчик получается, но вы оба знаете, что друг друга вы не переубедите, а подраться, всё равно не подеретесь. *Так что, может умерим пыл. *Ну чуть-чуть. *Самую малость. (H)

а в чем меня пытаются убедить? я по глупости даже не понял.. в том что в кине рубят правду матку?

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Человек, который почувствовал ветер перемен, должен построить не щит от ветра, а ветряную мельницу

Bachman and Perry are both religious nuts...
Интересно какую религию они исповедуют?