I have heard on our local talk radio an interesting definition of liberalism ( it was from a conservative rabbi) :
Liberalism- is a femininized version of civilization.
This came as an aswer to a caller's question "Why all liberals are drawn to dictators". And the rabbi made an analogy with the pretty girls at schools who are drawn to the biggest bullies.
I thought it was very illuminating!(H)

Лина Т.:
do you know how many people work50 hour weeks (weekends, late nights,holidays...)for only $40,000/year? and they don't get every holidayoff, not to mention 2 months in the summer
А как эти несчастные люди учились в школе? Как провели юность? Наверное, корпели над учебниками или осваивали основы своей будущей рабочей или фермерской профессии? Или они в своём подавляющем большинстве прослонялись всю юность - своё золотое время - без дела? За всё надо платить, Лина. А вообще-то говоря что страшного работать 50 часов в неделю? Я работаю значительно больше.

Павел, всё правильно! По закону сохранения энергии:-D В молодости отгулял своё, теперь вкалывай.
Кстати, кто в молодости трудился не покладая рук, у того это вошло в привычку, так сказать...
Мой муж 70- 80 часов в неделю пашет. Сокращать начал, а то раньше было под все 100.

Pavel, sorry to disappoint you, but I was referring to college graduates in my example. Please read my post within the context of Oleg's 21:35 post. Again, those that have never worked in the corporate world, especially the financial sector, will continue spouting the virtues of of the free market
(Oleg:"It's just that I don't know any liberals earning their bread by free market, old fashioned, supply & demand means. ") while themselves reaping the benefits of union jobs (Oleg's wife). My suggestion is that people frst try practicing before they attempt to preach.

My wife works harder than most of the people who make over $200K, if she gets good benefits it's only a fair reimbursement for an actual service that she provides: teaching children.
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so your family being the beneficiary of a taxpayer subsidized pension is acceptable, because your wife works hard for it and no one else does? how is this different from minorities insisting that they are entitled to government assistance, affirmative action, and other aid... simply because they've been victims of slavery, discrimination, oppression...? What happened to "earning their bread by free market, old fashioned, supply & demand means"? It seems to me that it's not the liberals that are having a problem with this concept.
By the way, your wife's benefits don't really concern me, but the hypocrisy of your post does.

Political Science for Dummies
1.DEMOCRAT
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
You push for higher taxes so the government can provide cows for everyone.
REPUBLICAN
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
So?
SOCIALIST
You have two cows.
The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.
COMMUNIST
You have two cows.
The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
You wait in line for hours to get it.
It is expensive and sour.
CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.
BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.
to be con-ed

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2.AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows.
You are surprised when one cow drops dead.
You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
Your stock goes up.
FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows..
You go on strike because you want three cows.
You go to lunch and drink wine.
Life is good.
JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour.
Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.
to be con-ed

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3.ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
You break for lunch.
Life is good.
RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have some vodka.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You have some more vodka.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.
TALIBAN CORPORATION
You have all the cows in Afghanistan , which are two.
You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts.
You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.
IRAQI CORPORATION
You have two cows.
They go into hiding.
They send radio tapes of their mooing.
POLISH CORPORATION
You have two bulls.
Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.

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4.BELGIAN CORPORATION
You have one cow.
The cow is schizophrenic.
Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish.
The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
The cow dies happy.
FLORIDA CORPORATION
You have a black cow and a brown cow.
Everyone votes for the best looking one.
Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one.
Some people vote for both.
Some people vote for neither.
Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best looking cow.
CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
You have millions of cows.
They make real California cheese.
Only five speak English.
Most are illegal.
Arnold likes the ones with the big udders.

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Плохой сегодня день. Я с помощью этой темы выяснил, что я либерал. Прочитал определения в самом начале темы и вот, что запало в душу:
What does it mean to be a Liberal?
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You get excited by new government initiatives like sending man to Mars. ...
Про Марс не скажу, но про Луну действительно считаю, что было бы здорово, заодно создали бы ракеты, чтоб от других стран не зависеть, когда спутники надо запускать. Много чего "заодно" можно было бы сделать самим. Не все ж в Китае закупать.
Не хотелось бы оставаться либералом. Не то чтобы считаю их плохими людьми. У меня много друзей таких взглядов, еще больше противоположных. Но жить в черно-белом мире не интересно.

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