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post #521 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:36
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in order to obtain a driver license in AZ, you need to submit your birth certificate or passport.. so, whoever is in the state illegally can't obtain driver license..
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post #522 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:42
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Now, if this is so, what is the point of this law then? If you are found driving w/out a license, you are in violation of the law. If I remember current regulations correctly, THEN you can be checked for your legal status.
Also, what if you do not drive?
IMHO, what should be enforced is border security and laws against people who hire illegal immigrants, as well as deportation laws.
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post #523 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:44
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if you are caught driving w/out a license or suspected in committing a crime, now the police can verify your legal status and report you to federal authorities.. before they were not authorized to do it..
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post #524 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:46
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who said they can only stop you if you're driving? and what if you're visiting from out of state or another country?
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post #525 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:48
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The new law makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. without proper documents. It allows the police to stop anyone on "reasonable suspicion" that they may be in the country unlawfully and arrest them onthe spot if they can't produce identity papers. The police aren'trequired to have a search warrant or even to suspect some illegalaction has occurred before questioning a person.
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post #526 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:53
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In other words, you can be on vacation in Arizina, a cop can overhear your thick Russian accent, suspect that you might be one of those Russians who are here illegally, ask you for your documents (your Florida license won't suffice), and if you fail to produce either your passport or naturaliztion papers, he can haul you off to jail.
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post #527 Старый 28.04.2010, 05:59
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that's why the majority of Americans support this kind of measures and don't buy into the crazy lefties' arguments..(md) ..most states have the same requirement for obtaining a driver license, most people (law-abiding) are willing to give this kind of authority to the police in order to uphold the law.. people who oppose it are just open boarder people, they want to allow anyone to come here legally or illegally regardless how the American people are affected - becoming crime victims, financially drained, etc..
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post #528 Старый 28.04.2010, 06:05
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most states is not the same as all states, not all people have a driver's license, and even those that do - not always on them... and of course there are tourists, exchange students...
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post #529 Старый 28.04.2010, 06:08
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and don't buy into the crazy lefties' arguments
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really? more crazy than your whining about the constitutionality of the US census? at least they're not hypocrites.
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post #530 Старый 28.04.2010, 06:10
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Ok, so that IS the issue -- does this law allow cops to stop you ON A SUSPICION or only after you commit a violation of some kind.
Otherwise, please explain me my rights given by my Constitution!!!
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