This system is not perfect. But what you are advocating for - is just a hell. If you admitted I know better about communism - listen, because your "advanced" ideas are antiquated communistic. The most laughable is “your company pays for you” – when I said I temporarily do not work. Did you read my post?

“Chukcha ne chitatel’ – chukcha pisatel’? :-D

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Mihail, you doing nothing more but running your mouth without making <br />point - do you know any other word besides Communism? you are <br />incapable to think and analyze, you work for company which pays for <br />your insurance, which makes you incompetent on the subject. you are going with the flow without thinking

Julia, what do you know about thinking at all? You never addressed any argument Roman, Sveta, Vitaly, me and other made. You are just making silly communist statements and then overreact after our debunking your baseless illusions.

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* Medicare and Medicaid spend 26.9 cents for every dollar of benefits versus 16.2 cents for private insurance.<br /><br />* Thus government spends 66 percent more than the private sector per dollar of benefits paid. <br /><br />Source: Mark Litow and the Technical Committee of the Council for Affordable Health Insurance, "Rhetoric vs. Reality: Comparing Public and Private Health Care Administrative Costs," March 1994, Council for Affordable Health Insurance, 112 S. West Street, 4th Floor, Alexandria, VA 22314, (703) 836-6200.

Dima, the issue is private companies, government funded insurance that's a totally different issue. Julia believes that U.S. Government should engage in business of insurance out right. Offering insurance to anyone who wants it from Homeless to Warren Buffet.

Roman, don't put your words in my mouth.. I never said that, that is
your inaccurate interpretation of what I said.. I said you can keep
your insurance, I said we need to have government system on hand AS
WELL to offer care for everyone.. read what I say next time, you
getting really ridiculous here..

I never said that government should provide insurance for homeless - I said they should provide HEALTH CARE for EVERYONE.

Roman, no it's not. you have no idea of the structure of health care in this country are you?

So you want to take away people's right to choose just because they cannot afford insurance ? Right now I get a medicaid I pick and choose a physician, do you propose that Government offers health care ? So the Government selects my physician and hospital ?

For some ignorant girls

REalClearPolitics:

Nationalized Health Care is Broken

One basic problem with nationalized health care is that it makes medical services seem free. That pushes demand beyond supply. Governments deal with that by limiting what's available.

That's why the British National Health Service recently made the pathetic promise to reduce wait times for hospital care to four months.
The wait to see dentists is so long that some Brits pull their own teeth. Dental tools: pliers and vodka.
One hospital tried to save money by not changing bed sheets every day. British papers report that instead of washing them, nurses were encouraged to just turn them over.

Read more:

***********.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/09/socialized_medicine_is_broken.html

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So, we see 2 different points here. On one side government is wasting money, on the other it "supposedly" pays more then the insurance company in benefits. The reason I use "supposedly", is because I can show that this statement is actually not true as they have not counted all aspects in this report. But, what I was trying to show, is that there is still at least 70% waste in both the government and commercial sectors. Can we do better, like hell we can. Why are we not doing it? That is because the market conditions do not require companies to get that much better yet. And we, as consumers, let them get away with it.

To make sure we continue this conversation in the constructive way, Julia, are you a proponent of Universal Coverage or government run healthcare system?