1. Strict protection of the border and enforcement of the deportation laws - you cross the border illegally - you are deported, no "ifs", "ands" or "buts". No appeals, court hearings, debates. If that means we need to build a toll fence - build it. Utilize high tech surveillance equipment - use it. If it means we need to deploy National Guard or even active duty troops - do it. Many countries (including Mexico) have troops on their border.
2. Strict enforcement of the hiring practices. No hiring of illegals. Period. You are found hiring illegals - you're fined. Big time. Your business found hiring illegals repeatedly - you're put out of business, fined and put in jail. You;ll see how quickly jobs for illegals will dry up and they will have no choice, but to go home (and apply for work visa - LEGALLY)

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3. Creation of a robust system where people can apply for a work visa (and processed in an expeditious manner) so they can work in this country LEGALLY. This can and should be done in American Embassy in Mexico City and consulates around the country. Staff it to handle necessary large volume traffic. Have this visa active for 2-3 years and being able to renew it as many times as necessary. Meantime, long time foreign workers can pursue opportunity to first apply for permanent residence and then for citizenship - LEGALLY, in the order they applied and according to the LAW!!!
This is not an "a la carte" solution. You can't pick and choose the one option you like. They either all work TOGETHER, or they DON'T WORK !!!!
End of story. Problem solved.
Oh, ye, one more thing - it will never happen!!!! - not until we vote these bums out and replace them with people with common sense and the balls to implement it.

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even so, I don't see it as a problem at all.. if you have documents, you would have to carry them with you (passport, visa, green card).. if the state feels like they have a big problem with people inhabiting their state who broke the federal law, contributing to drug and violent crimes, bankrupting their hospitals, they have every right to deal with it if the federal government doesn't.. Phoenix alone has half a million illegals.. the drug cartels don't have an American employer to punish, maybe only in Mexico.. and that's outside of the American government jurisdiction.. (ch)
PS. if someone doesn't like the AZ law, they are free not to travel there.. but if people of AZ has decided this is the measure they have to take it, it's their right to protect themselves (the latest poll show 70% support)..

What I don't get is why we can't secure the border the way it was secured in USSR? No one could get in, not even speaking of getting out. So, what's the deal with inability to secure the border?
Is it the money issue? Or a lack of political incentive, as Marat said?

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well, there was that kid who landed his plane near the Red Square... other than him, I'm guessing that keeping people out wasn't a major problem.

The problem for the longest time has been of both republican anddemocrat making. They are both equally culpable - republicans wantcheap labor and democrats (pushing for amnesty) want permanent Hispanicvoting majority.
Oh, ye, one more thing - it will never happen!!!! - not until we vote these bums out and replace them with people with common sense and the balls to implement it.
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just a few questions: who exactly are these bums that we're voting out and where do we find these sensible, ballsy replacements?

That kid was tracked by air defense radars all the way from the point he crossed border -- no one could order to shoot him down (as it was clearly a civilian aircraft) and no really "big bosses" were available to give that order...

PS. if someone doesn't like the AZ law, they are free not to travel there.. but if people of AZ has decided this is the measure they have to take it, it's their right to protect themselves (the latest poll show 70% support)..
Yes, I will not travel to Arizona and advice my frineds not to do so as well. I did not come to this country to be a second-class citizen just because I don't have southern accent.
P.S. Natan, I agree with all of your points, except for the very last one. I don't believe that Republicans have political will to change the situation -- there was no immigration reform during 8 years of Bush administration.
P.P.S. I believe that border security is a national security issue -- and if they want to build the wall, they should do so. At least they should hire many-many more Park Rangers (or whoever patrols that border).

even so, I don't see it as a problem at all.. if you have documents, you would have to carry them with you (passport, visa, green card)..
Yes -- and that would get us closer to that totalitarian regime that you are talking about. How can you not see the infringement on your civil liberties here???

Common civil liberties include the rights of people, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech, and additionally, the right to due process, to a trial, to own property, and to privacy.
nope, I don't see a conflict with my civil liberties.. if someone is suspected in breaking a law, the law enforcement has a duty to act on it.. how do you think the federal government would enforce it?? *-)