you dismissed 5 polls, WOW do you actually a have a poll that says it
was worth it? The world is better off ? I do not know. considering that
some studies give casualties as high as a million dead. Considering
that the cost of war is estimated to be 2 trillion , considering that
terrorism in the world is actually increased and we are breading new
cells in Iraq. ... hmm Saddam vs all this . I do not know.
Everything has a cost.

you are not presenting a balanced picture . "Exxon workforce" will be
offset by people employed in other fields. You are not talking about
net gain / net loss.. which is debatable. If you are concerned with
jobs , what is you opinion on the current administration puny record?

i am interested to talk policy and fact - not empty rethoric like "global utopia". ^o)

Terorrism has always been there always will be, especially in part of the world. The 2 trillion has you yourself have indicated has been offset by millions who have jobs from this war. The same way to allege that ExxonMobil work-force will be offset by other ventures. Debatable ? Everything from war to Global Warming is debatable. Our personnel losses are in a few thousand not in millions. The polls mean crap and you know it, they are opinions of people who use ultra-liberal bias media to form opinions and lets face it every time someone in this country has a bad day the president is blamed, do you honestly think 1 man controls everything ? congress voted on this war and approved it 98-2. President signed off along with 17other contries. I do not have any polls, I use facts from real news sources to form an opinion, plus I spend enough time in DC to get a good picture of whats going on.

OK you want facts, fine. Fact, we have enough menpower, money, resources and technology right now to do the following: Stop human factor of global warming completely, stop using oil completely, put an end to poverty, hunger and war, to stop the flow of illegal immigration, to stop all drug trafficking in the U.S. and to nail terrorism shut. Would you like us to ?

oh, really! and you say that I live in a fairytale world? I know
you are sarcastic about all this, because none of the thing mentioned
can be achieved. you are just ridiculing any liberal leaning agenda, it does
not really speak highly of your reasoning in my opinion. i would love to have a serious discussion though.

I am "alleging" that workforce losses in oil industry will be
offset ? it is a fact that they will be offset by new jobs in
emerging industries. you still did not present the net change. Polls
are not meaningless, they do show the general feeling f the public.
One man does not control everything and the polls actually show that
the public does want change from the old policies - recent election
results show that . Republicans loosing the safest districts. It is
not a one man's influence anymore.

yes congress voted for the "bill",
which required president to try all diplomatic means. I say he did
not. Which vote are you referring to 98- 2. i know the vote when 23 (?) senators voted agains.

Roman, once again you are not making argument you just throwing words on
the wind. what is your solutions? you want to keep killing people in
wars (I understand it, you been there done it and wars are not a big deal), you want continue to use oil
(even with the prices as of today which continue to rise), you want to
sit in your office and let your government to use your money (from taxes
you pay) to crash economy and you don't want to do anything
about anything right now..hm.. well, here is news for you, once we
run out of oil in reserve in Alaska (which we don't even know they will
allow us to drill - which would be only temporarily emergency step to cut down cost
of the oil for our country), we still going to face the problem, the
same one in a few years..but the same crisis to deal with every 10
years don't you think is ridiculous idea?? like we say fool me once
shame on you, fool me twice shame on me...I don't think it worth it..

been there done it - is a slang reflecting your knowledge, I hope you understand it correctly..

Vladimir, I was not kidding about the available technology. It really exists, but using it is fatal to us. Yulya, war is a horible thing, however, its there we have to deal with it. Make no mistake even 1 person dying in war is 1 too many. However, the fact remains that if we implement all the technology available to us, we will loose not thousands but millions upon millions of jobs. Unemployment will skyrocket, and crime to go with it. Stock will plumet to the rock buttom. Countries like Saudi Arabia whoentirely depend on oil will pull their money out of our banks. We will start another war to compensate, other desperate country will join in for lack of economic stimimus, end result WORLD WAR III, eventually it will hit one of the more rogue nuclear powers and ... say good night gracy. Yes we need to deal with Warming, Oil, War, Economy, but we cannot we loose more if we do. It's a sad fact of life. To implement oil technology will take about 100 years. Everyone agrees with that.