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post #51 Старый 25.05.2010, 09:18
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Arizona Immigration Law will have a "dominoeffect" on all other states. Now Pennsylvania and other states are consideringsimilar judicial act. 70% of Americans are in support of this law. Our Federalgovernment ignored the problem for long enough to make the local government toaddress this issue.
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post #52 Старый 25.05.2010, 09:54
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"The only solution to Arizona problem, is to built the double fence on the border. "
yep, and Maria will volunteer to guard a designated portion of it.:-D
Oh, you know what they should do: have those little name plates like they have in Opera theaters "This portion of the fence is donated to the USA citizens by Dr and Mrs ...and Maria ( last name)" :-D
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post #53 Старый 25.05.2010, 09:59
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Julia,
Surely, it is better for everyone to have it wide open for Bob, Dick and Harry... or sorry - Pedro, Diego and Alehandro to just waltz into the old good US of A.
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post #54 Старый 25.05.2010, 10:11
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Gera - totally agree with you!
My added touch is just those who want to build the fence should just DO it ! And guard it , and have those little name plates commemorate them(H) . Isn't this in total line with the American spirit? Minimum Government involvement, power to the people!:-D
Stop talking, organize the troops, mix the cement....
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post #55 Старый 25.05.2010, 10:28
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actually people already are (doing it).. have your heard of Minuteman?.. or you want people from одноглазники to do it? (ch) .. most of us don't simply live on the broken border.. but we are still for a civilized society and want a responsible government that perform its primary function - secure its citizens..
I guess we should say the same things about people who want people to have access to affordable healthcare - just DO it! either pay for it or provide it..
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post #56 Старый 25.05.2010, 11:38
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I don't quite get the point of new law. What? It was legal to stay in US illegally before? The "old" laws were not enforced. How would new law change the situation? States want to fight the illegal immigration themselfs? Are there enough resorces to fight the drug traffic and other crime? No, judging from the result of war on grugs. Result of war on illegals will be the same, for the same reason - there are not enough resources. Sounds like it is purely political move. If this move would force federal goverment to enforce existing laws...
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post #57 Старый 25.05.2010, 11:50
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the point of the new law is to fight the crime in the state of Arizona which is contributed to a large degree by illegal immigrants..so they want to give the tools to the local law enforcement give to identify them (illegals) and transfer them to the federal authority.. aslo the new law makes it a misdemanor to stay in the state illegally..
the world capital of kidnappings is Mexico city.. the second place goes to Phoenix..
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post #58 Старый 25.05.2010, 12:07
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Would it be more efficient? To fight the illegal immigration first, then other crimes? The resources are limited. Especially at State level.
If the idea of law is to force federal goverment to act - it is reasonable. But to spend resources on arresting illegals, just because they are illegals - it is not efficient use of resources.
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post #59 Старый 25.05.2010, 12:21
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"- just DO it! either pay for it or provide it.."
-actually, this is a good analogy.
Those of us who know to provide it or help people to get affordable care in many cases actually walk the talk - everyday.
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post #60 Старый 25.05.2010, 12:54
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Actually I am not against opening the borders. But if we do that, then let that be done legally, with required paper work, English classes, taxing the immigrants, making them have the inoculation shots, etc. But as long as we have "illegal" immigrants, we should be able to enforce our laws. There is no other thing that is deemed illegal that anyone would oppose the police enforcement of, perhaps with the exception of some old sexual laws :-D
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