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post #851 Старый 16.05.2010, 06:47
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oh, and the reason I cut and paste, is because I don't like to pull information out of my...
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post #852 Старый 16.05.2010, 07:37
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Julia, you probably know no one pays the entire top rate on their gross profit - not individuals, not companies - because they can deduct lots of eligible expenses.. so it's the average statistics says they pay 17%, it doesn't mean they didn't pay their fair share..
the reason economic stimuli don't work (not when Bush did some in summer 2008, not the humongous Obama's) is because
1. lots of money from Obama's stimulus went to government which does nothing for businesses
2. money that went to individuals, just like when Bush did, don't necessarily get spent on smth that stimulate the economy - smth like credit card payoffs, etc..
3. when you cut taxes long-term, not for a year or so like Obama did, only then busensses can plan long-term and grow and create jobs..but it takes people who actually create smth, not community organizers to know that..even his treasury admitted he never had a real job..
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post #853 Старый 16.05.2010, 07:38
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4. corporations can leave to Ireland, for example, where there is 12% corporate tax.. they can still do business with the US, just won't create jobs here..
5. when corporations are taxed more, they usually pass it on on the consumer, like every business does.. so, we end up paying the tab again..
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post #854 Старый 16.05.2010, 07:52
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but would u pay more if you don't deduct at all - federal, state, local, ss, medicare...it's way more than 40%, right? ... and corporate expenses are probably much more than for small busineses - they are regulated much more..
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post #855 Старый 16.05.2010, 07:56
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corporations can leave to Ireland, for example, where there is 12%corporate tax..
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how is that less than paying no taxes?
they can still do business with the US, just won'tcreate jobs here..
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at no additional cost? you're forgetting that there's a lot more to the cost of doing business than just taxes. you honestly believe that most US corporations stay here out of some sense of patriotic loyalty?
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post #856 Старый 16.05.2010, 08:01
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but would u pay more if you don't deduct at all - federal, state, local, ss, medicare...it's way more than 40%, right? ...
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post #857 Старый 16.05.2010, 08:20
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so do corporations, otherwise, they would be in prison.. or maybe still will be if they didn't pay what was required of them by law..
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post #858 Старый 16.05.2010, 08:23
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so do corporations, otherwise, they would be in prison.. or maybe stillwill be if they didn't pay what was required of them by law..
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post #859 Старый 16.05.2010, 08:24
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It is customary amongst liberal "intellectual thinkers" of today and yesterday, as well I am sure, as of tomorrow to count somebody else money. It is easy, justifiable and self fulling to keep explaining why the profits of so and so are OK to spent.Especially if it involves good intentions and feelings...
They bring all of the possible statistics to help to guilt the members of society to be on board and shut down these egoistic individuals, maniacally dedicated to make money by actually working and producing goods and services.
I do not care what statistics exists out there. I do not want to share. Anything with anybody. I want to decide to give, when it feels good to me, not them, or Uncle Sam.
Stay away from my paycheck!
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post #860 Старый 16.05.2010, 08:34
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Gera, but they also forget that the same people who want to tax "the rich" more (which we, regular people, end up paying), don't pay their own taxes - Geithner - our treasury!!, Kennedy, Sebellius and many others from the same Obama cabinet..
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